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Post by mytailorisrich »

fckgw wrote: post #277
mytailorisrich wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter has become the de facto standard, so IMHO moderation should only ask one question: "is this tweet legal?" If the answer is 'yes' then it should be allowed. Of course, a corollary is that they should be able to filter content on a per country basis because, obviously, what's legal differs from country to country, but I think there is no escaping that for any platforms which claim to be global.

Sounds like a great way to foster a community filled with racist, unwelcoming, and generally toxic but perfectly legal content. Just like every other "free speech" platform devolves into.

Can we stick to a grown-up discussion, please? You are not replying to my points in any meaningful way.

It's shocking that HN commenters could be so toxic, indeed.

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Post by philosopher1234 »

hitpointdrew wrote: post #318
philosopher1234 wrote: post #296

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Interesting. I imagine that means you're a real champion of improving opportunities for minorities, and spend a substantial amount of your time taking action to try and solve that problem, since adversity is adversity.

I'll happily oppose any racist law or coporate policy. Do you care to point me to any? And not just some "systemic racist" boogie man in the sky?

Good for you. Do you spend time actually researching systematic racism? Since we’re all just people perfectly capable of advocating for the same justice im sure you do.

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Post by tayo42 »

jeffbee wrote: post #120

If you are exposed to things on Twitter that are tweeted by people not personally known to you, IMHO you are using Twitter incorrectly. I have no idea why anyone gives a damn what the content moderation policies might be. Speaking for my own account I have never once seen anything said by Trump, Kanye, the pillow guy, any neo nazis, any anti-vaxxers, or anything like that. In what way are people using Twitter that ma…

Tweets are everywhere, not just on Twitter. Theyre in the news as sources, they're on Instagram, Facebook and reddit.

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Post by memish »

philosopher1234 wrote: post #290
memish wrote: post #222

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You can't be serious. Ideas are not attached to skin color. That's a regressive, racist belief.

So your interest in elon musk and free speech is just the objectively correct thing to be interested in, and isn't attached to your biography at all?

Correct.

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Post by zimpenfish »

concinds wrote: post #207
tibbydudeza wrote: post #36

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Right wing provocateurs are already having their supporters posting the n-word, racist and anti LGBTQ content since Elon took over. It is going to be fun watching it implode.

You may not have noticed, but they've been posting that for years.

There has been a significant uptick today[1].

[1] https://twitter.com/ncri_io/status/1586007698910646272

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Post by hedora »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #172
hedora wrote: post #132

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It's not lone wolf terrorism though, it's an organized + well funded movement to end US democracy. They control a bit over 50% of the Republican party, and a growing percentage of the courts (including the supreme court). Heck; Biden is would be considered right wing in most developing countries, and here's his take: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/20... > Donald Trump and the MAGA Republica…

Again, this sounds very different from a scenario where a civil war is on the table. Biden's concern with "MAGA Republicans" is that they might win political power locally and use it to subvert national election results, not that they might shoot him and seize power by force. (Scare quotes because I find the term unhelpful, not because I disagree that such a group exists.)

Read the whole speech:

> They promote authoritarian leaders, and they fan the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country.

They look at the mob that stormed the United States Capitol on January 6th — brutally attacking law enforcement — not as insurrectionists who placed a dagger to the throat of our democracy, but they look at them as patriots.

And they see their MAGA failure to stop a peaceful transfer of power after the 2020 election as preparation for the 2022 and 2024 elections.

They tried everything last time to nullify the votes of 81 million people. This time, they’re determined to succeed in thwarting the will of the people.

That’s why respected conservatives, like Federal Circuit Court Judge Michael Luttig, has called Trump and the extreme MAGA Republicans, quote, a “clear and present danger” to our democracy.

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Post by fernandotakai »

intrasight wrote: post #289

Twitter is not a megaphone. So tired of news sites using that analogy. I can choose what I see on Twitter.

that's one of the things i never understood. twitter gives you SO MANY TOOLS to avoid seeing what you don't want to see. you can lock your account, lock replies, block accounts, mute accounts, filter keywords and that's not without mentioning the granularity of notifications.

i, myself, almost never see what i consider hateful content.

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Post by nrmitchi »

pessimizer wrote: post #281
nrmitchi wrote: post #61

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I think this (at least the first part) is fairly bang-on. There is a difference between diversity of "the place where you are forming an opinion", and diversity of what that opinion is. By saying that a council needs to equally represent diversity of opinions completely ignores how widespread those opinions actually are. Decisions about action to take about going "defcon 3 on the jews" should not need to be decided b…

It's important to note here, and to the comment you replied to, that Trump won an election, and currently has higher approval ratings than Biden. That's a problem if your belief system relies on your being part of an oppressed majority, or to use the original term, a "moral majority." That's why it's important to remove appeals to popularity from moral reasoning.

Please point to where in my comment I used the word "Trump" or tried to make this a political debate.

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Post by jungturk »

drstewart wrote: post #276
valtism wrote: post #256

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Why not diversity of skin color? Diversity is both of these things. It is true that you can have more diversity in a room of people of one race than a room of people of all different races, but it's more common that you will find diversity across lines like race, gender, age, etc.

>It is true that you can have more diversity in a room of people of one race than a room of people of all different races Since it's clear that diversity without race differences can exist, but diversity without different ideas can't exist, then why care about race at all?

Because being representative of the community you serve is useful in establishing credibility.
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