"In Europe, the bird will fly by our rules."
Let’s see how popular that policy is once they make the site completely unavailable in Europe.
Honestly that would be wonderful
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#142This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…
Based upon his build up, this will be a fig leaf/scapegoat . I don't see anything in his behaviour which would justify your "optimistic" outlook. Sure it won't degenerate in one of those gutter platforms right away but I doubt he'll be able to maintain an acceptable level as long as he's directly involved. He just doesn't make the the impression of an adult person. imho this may end up being really good for the rest…
Musk had to borrow quite a bit of money to close the deal. Those looming debt payments will force real business decisions.
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#143This is going to be an interesting claim considering that he's pro letting Trump back on the platform.
That guy, despite being the president, repeatedly said things that got other people banned with their rules. Some how other leaders claimed this was a said day that he finally got punished for it.
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#144This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Keep the advertisers happy, but try to reduce the reliance on advertisers. Keep moderating content to reduce abuse, maybe eliminate the high profile banning but a person on the ground will have largely the same experience. (probably less action on more…
A bunch of accounts like The Babylon Bee and Ye have been unbanned w/o input from any such committee of diverse viewpoints. I don't have much faith that Musk will not act unilaterally in service of his friends and allies.
Let's avoid disinfo. Neither account was banned to begin with. Both accounts were restricted, which could be lifted after the user deletes the offending tweet. It's overwhelmingly likely Musk had nothing to do with either case (and he said so himself).
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/technology/kanye-ye-twitt...
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At least in the US, there's a lot of noxious speech that's legal. The US has very permissive free speech laws overall.
And conversely the US is one of the most restrictive nations on earth when it comes to speech that supposedly infringes Copyrights or can be interpreted as defamation/slander. The premise that US has anything resembling freedom of speech is completely untrue.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
So anyone that is celebrating this Musk announcement is telling on themselves This is exactly the sort of tone that improving balance is intended to counter.
If you take a quick scroll through the quote-retweets of Musk's "the bird is freed" tweet [1], there are a lot of slurs and bigotry. Musk might or might not be bigoted himself, but lots of bigots seem awfully happy at the prospect of him in charge. [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585841080431321088
Lots of people get happy when their "enemies" are unhappy and whinging about it. This implies nothing about whether the changes will be good for them too.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the real world, sure. The Internet would have us believe that civil war is imminent. We need to stop letting the 1% of people who bother to post online drive our national dialog. We have put the crazies in charge of the asylum.
> The Internet would have us believe that civil war is imminent. The person who could arguably be considered the third most powerful politician in the US just had their own broken into and their spouse assaulted in a suspected act of domestic terrorism. I wouldn't say "imminent" but if you don't think the possibility is at least somewhere on the table I would consider that being naive.
American society was far closer to breaking down in 1968 than it is today. Riots in multiple cities, political assassinations, the polarization over the war in Vietnam, violence in the south over segregation and civil rights, crime waves in most large cities, and urban decay that was so bad people don't believe it when they see the photos today...
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Please follow the HN guidelines:
> Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.
> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
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#150It would be amazing if a council with diverse viewpoints could even sit together without killing each other in this day and age. Does this exist anywhere?
Yes, this is how social interaction in the real world, or even smaller online communities, has worked for ages. It's only on pseudonymous mega-sites like Twitter, Reddit and HN where jumping down people's throats for having an opposing viewpoint is even a thing.
You know, there are best practices for moderating discussions.
https://coralproject.net/blog/five-myths-of-community-design...