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Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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post #69

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Why is it "his personal ideology" when he's one in charge, but simply "twitter's rules" when the previous CEOs were in charge?

Because Twitter policy wasn't informed by a single person until now.

Alright, the why is it not "group ideology"?

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post #46

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> Elon doesn't actually believe in a free marketplace of ideas, Is he banning left wing accounts? Is there any evidence of what you say?

Will he unban ISIS recruiting accounts? Will he unban Trump? Alex Jones? He's not a free speech absolutist, he's just making room for his personal ideology. He doesn't need to ban leftists to achieve his goal of pushing them off the platform.

Why is it that if you allow both left and right, the left will leave?

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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In that link, why doesn't Wikipedia mention the subject's "Born" name, like they do with others who change their name? Natalie Portman, Teller, Elton John, just to name a few.

Actors don't change their name because they're changing their identity, actors often act under a different name because they are required to have a unique name to participate in certain organisations (e.g: screen actors guild). An actor may be known as Natalie Portman but who knows what's on her passport? Transgender people are typically changing their identity, which is a different process.

> Transgender people are typically changing their identity

This is not a thing that is possible, although the idea that it could be has lead to at least a few transgender women claiming in court that they are innocent of the crimes they committed before their new name and presentation.

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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post #5

Why was it suspended in the first place?

They selected Rachel Levine as their pick for "Man of the Year", although she is a transgender woman. Babylon Bee says that she is a man, and the truth cannot be hate speech. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine Honestly I would agree with Babylon Bee if it would be just for satire, like giving a funny award to a transgender woman, I get it, but they are not in it for the jokes, they are in it for the truth as…

Hate speech is a construct. Not only does this construct not exist in US law, it cannot exist because it violates the 1st amendment.

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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The problem for Musk is that Twitter never banned them for being right-wing. They were banned for undeniable, crystal-clear breaches of their terms of service. Is Musk going to allow child porn, inciteful content, doxxing ? This is an unwindable situation.

It just happens there terms of service bans lots of things that are popular among the right wing crowd. You say it as if twitter's terms of service were the source of right and wrong, not influenced by the extreme left wing culture of silicon valley.

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Transphobia is pretty clearly against twitters rules. They weren't really banned, they were locked out until they deleted their tweet. All they had to do was delete the tweet.

The argument that a person can be a different gender than the one that all their physical biology points to is absolutely not an open-and-shut case. I know many people believe that it is, but that doesn’t mean that there aren’t valid opposing arguments. To me, that means that you shouldn’t be banned for contesting the idea of transgenderism. I think a more reasonable argument is that people should be allowed to prese…

Sure. But Twitter has said "we want to make sure that we have trans voices on our platform, so in the interest of a broader marketplace of ideas, we're going to say no to one particular idea - making fun of trans people, who typically face a much higher level of violence, rejection, discrimination, and hate than most".

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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Myocarditis in young men below the age of 18 from the vaccine is real and verified. This was even shown by the CDC during the ACIP meeting for the bivalent booster. It's roughly about 1 in 5000 chance of getting myocarditis, and about 1/3 of the patients are still suffering from it 90 days after diagnosis.

I'm sure it is real, but that's not the point. A fact can be true but still be amplified far beyond its actual significance relative to other things that are also true, and that seems like what's happening here. I'm seeing a lot of people citing the exact same highly-dubious articles, which takes us further from figuring out the empirical truth on a complex set of issues. Those citations are also often accompanied by…

censorship attenuates the truth to its true significance.

-Some powerful newspeak there bud

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

#128
post #93

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I agree with you. They were never banned because they were right wing, they were banned because they were tweeting hateful things that were against the rules.

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I think you should be banned for such a comment.

There is an inherent distinction between being born with something versus something you acquired during your life. Many trans people live their entire lives not feeling like they belong in the body they were born in.

For them it's no different to being born black, white etc.

Re: The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

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post #51

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> turning into a cesspit of toxicity because ‘free speech’ Twitter is already a cesspit of toxicity because of the lack of free speech. This won't make it any worse.

I guess it depends on which side you believe is more toxic. It's strange you would take the side that limiting bigotry, racism, homophobia, and transphobia is what creates toxicity.

Stopping people from stating facts and forcing them to respect the emperor's new clothes by force creates toxicity, yes.
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