This is not an honest take on ‘ease of doing business in india’. What the author is trying to do is re-purpose his agricultural land for non agricultural use. For various socio-political reasons this is big no-no in many states in India and is known to be a very long winding and drawn out process because the govt does not want agricultural land to be re-purposed. I expected something along the lines of ‘I tried to setup a unit on land that I already have which allows this’. Note that agricultural land goes for a pittance compared to non na one. Author probably tried to pull a fast one onthe govt.
I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)
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Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)
#292Here's some interesting things that I believe are universally true in India: 1) People succeed here inspite of the government, not cause of it.* 2) Indians can be successful anywhere except India. *Unless you are rich enough to bend the laws to your needs.
and still it seems a lot of india fetishes socialism/commando economy USSR style. why?
It's easier to move the masses with promises of freebies and subsidies than with better economics that are difficult to explain.
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Becoming an IAS/IPS officer is the most prestigious thing you can do as an individual. If you are in UP and Bihar. That's not true for the rest of the country.
True in Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh as well (have lived there for years). Between these four states alone, we're talking about 40% of the country's population. If more than half of your country believes something, it can be said to be the majority opinion.
You wrote: >
Google Sensei tells me:
UP: 204.2M
Bihar: 99.02M
Rajasthan: 68.89M
Madhya Pradesh: 73.34M
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's what Bolsonaro did in Brazil. In his campaign, he demonstrated to be a good christian and a person of faith. In Brazil, people strongly associate that with being a good person. Wasn't Bolsonaro elected because the previous president and his main opponent (Lula?) was so corrupt that he even landed in jail, which is a rare event for a prominent politician? > Guess what happened after. Care to explain to non Br…
In a nutshell, he decided that streamlining things by eliminating courts and elections would help him achieve his vision.
Ah, a good king! The ever-popular fairy-tale character.
Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)
#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea itself is sound and reasonable. If you let people built wherever you'll find yourself out of arable land in an instant. What seems overly complex and inefficient is the amount of permissions and the subpermissions. Even to my German bueorcracy adjusted ears this sounds like a great way to extract bribes and fees. At least the process here is quite clear (but not always fast)
This does not seem sound and reasonable. Yes, India has been civilized for 5000 years, with the result that it's very densely populated; but "very densely populated" is only 418 people per square kilometer, less than twice Germany's 232. 53% of India's land area is arable land: 790 people per square kilometer of arable land, or 1270 square meters of arable land per person. I feel like 100 square meters of factory are…
Population density of Nederlands: >500 people/sq.km.
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
US citizens bribing foreign officials can be convicted of a felony under (I think it is) The Foreign Corrupt Practices act. Whether DOJ chases down three-developer scale stuff, or has only the staff for multi-zillion class bribes, I don't know.
Paying an official to do something they were going to do (eventually) anyway does not qualify as a bribe.
Jesus. Please no one take that as legal advice. Paying a bribe to get preferential treatment (even if that treatment is just to get the person to do their actual job) is a bribe none the less.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just google Franz Josef Strauss for some history on German corruption. Followed by a quick search on how exactly the government sourced face masks during COVID (same political part basically). For Switzerland, well, a quick search for money laundering gives you all the information you need. EDIT: Both the FIFA and the IOCI, probably the most corrupt organizations on earth, are having their seats in Switzerland.
I checked his Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Josef_Strauss I cannot find the word "corruption" anywhere. What am I missing?
Weapons deals with saudi arabia, the Starfighter, the Spiegel affaire (more an abuse of power than corruption), none of this is mentioned?
Edit: Both, the Spiegel affaire and the Lockheed bribery scandal are mentioned.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Poland atm you can't even buy farmland unless you are a registered farmer in the local county already. Its a new rule and hopefully they remove it cause its insane. And then of course you can't just build on it. You may attempt to reclassify it into building land but from TFA it seems the process is just as tedious as in India and definietely not guaranteed to succeed. Theres a big chance, once you get to the buil…
First you have to ask yourself why would such a rule exist? Sometimes it is done in the interest of national security. Or you run into issues such as a desert kingdom purchasing rights to use massive quantities of farmland where water is already scarce. See Saudi Alfalfa in California. Or why Bill Gates is the biggest private farm land owner in the United States at around 242,000 acres and climbing. You need to look…
This reply is the perfect "Chesterson's Fence"!
Re: I tried starting a manufacturing unit in India (2020)
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
In India they optimize for maximum employment. It's the only place I've seen 7 people needed to refill a soda vending machine. Once I ordered some drinks brought up to my hotel room around 10 in the evening. It took forever - turned out the guy who made the drinks was sent home for the day. So the hotel called him back and had him return just so he could come and make the drinks and bring them to my room. Because tha…
Weird question: Did you feel embarassed when you learned driver was sleeping in the car? I would be. You: Sleeping in a 5 star. Them: In an uncomfortable car seat. When I traveled to Seam Reap, Cambodia, I was constantly embarassed when my driver did not come to eat with me. It was a weird, unpleasant peasant-ruler divide that I did not enjoy.
Unfortunately, in rich countries, the peasant-ruler divide is just abstracted away and out of sight, often internationally.
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
in The US recently a commissioner at The FDA got offered a high exec position at Pfizer. Nobody says anything about that...
There's literally an entire political party dedicated to ridiculing Democratic nonsense during the pandemic.
Gottleib was the FDA commissioner under the Trump administration, though.
This isn’t about a particular political party.
Even the much hated fauci was a career bureaucrat under numerous administrations, of both parties.