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Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by TheDudeMan »

nelsonic wrote: post #69
everdrive wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That’s like someone who has no idea how to cook leaving a bad review for food they could never hope to improve on Ignoring the context of the article, I don’t believe that the example you’ve given here is really fair. It’s perfectly valid to review something which you could not create. If we excluded that whole category, then reviews would mostly cease to exist, and only peer review would be possible.

Totally agree! Peer review is the only valid feedback in many situations. You don’t see many ultra-successful serial entrepreneurs doubting on Elon! You see many of them driving Teslas. As someone who has been in the kitchen since childhood, I can appreciate how difficult great food is to create! If I taste something inferior I’m going to be specific with my feedback for improvement, highlighting the good points not…

> Totally agree!

Um, your response is not agreement.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by inkcapmushroom »

influx wrote: post #35
karaterobot wrote: post #18

I am personally hoping that Twitter will break Elon Musk, and then go out of business. That would be the best possible outcome. I am not holding my breath that it will happen, but it would be incredible.

Why would losing Tesla and SpaceX be incredible?

Those companies would not evaporate without Elon.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by jongjong »

This article makes no sense; it sounds like leftist propaganda.

Advertisers only care about 'brand safety' to the extent that it impacts their ability to sell stuff.

So long as users keep using the platform, advertisers will keep coming back - They're not going to vacate the platform and let their competitors get all the eyeballs... If they did, those competitors would gain market share and make incumbents irrelevant.

Users have made it clear that they want free speech on social media platforms so I don't see how giving users what they want would cause them to leave.

The problem with Twitter so far is that they sold out to big governments and big corporations and completely neglected their users in the process. Having front-row access to users, Twitter is actually in a position to dictate the rules; it should not be taking orders from politicians and corporate executives when those orders are harmful to its users.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by jjeaff »

dymk wrote: post #45
cma wrote: post #38

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Don't bet against him getting away with scamming. And don't bet against politicians wanting to affiliate with his celebrity/interact with his clout giving him subsidies.

Yeah, all those Teslas which deffo weren’t sold, what a scam

Those that paid $10k+ for full self driving got at least partially scammed.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by timmb »

bluehatbrit wrote: post #26
LatteLazy wrote: post #6

It's very very unclear to me why he bought it. He said it was about free speech but Twitter is already about as free as it's possible to be without permitting a whole bunch of content that is NOT protected under the first amendment (CP, calls to violence etc). And if it is about free speech then it cannot be an automated moderation play, because there is nothing to moderate if you're a pure free speech platform. The…

I've just assumed this is the new version of buying media outlets. Bezos bought the Washington Post, Musk decided to buy Twitter. I'm sure it won't be long before Musk hating gets you kicked off the platform.

Washington Post not the NYT no?

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by jmopp »

memish wrote: post #61
jmopp wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People didn't get banned for saying men are not women, they got banned for harassing people and inciting violence. That's how Libs of TikTok avoids the banhammer, by going as close as she can to the line without crossing it.

That's the same as a flat earther saying it's harassment when someone says "the earth is not flat". Meghan Murphy was banned for saying the earth is not flat. "Men are not women tho". https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1585838039397707777 It's ridiculous gaslighting enforced that was being enforced by the platform.

If people are getting banned for saying 'men are not women' I would not expect Colin Wright to be able to tweet it and get over 3000 likes. A single reported tweet does not lead to a suspension.

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by SilverBirch »

nemo44x wrote: post #46

I'm betting that something like the Google Circles gets implemented but at a higher level. In order to engage with certain people you have to be a member of certain groups/circles or not a member of certain circles/groups. These groups would be moderated by the people that run them. So instead of having Twitter pick and choose who is allowed on the platform, you crowdsource it to the people who want to moderate their…

Isn't that... reddit?

Re: Welcome to Hell, Elon

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Post by pjkundert »

labrador wrote: post #3

My first thought when Musk bought Twitter was "His engineering has team figured out content moderation" but I've seen no evidence or talk of that. So I think it's true that he impulsively bought himself his worst nightmare.

Perhaps Elon has heard of K-Means Clustering, and you haven't...

"Solving" content moderation is a losing battle -- there is no way to humanly moderate anything at the rate it can be produced, and Elon knows this. It's insane, so he probably won't do it.

But, allowing content to be produced, but making sure no real person ever sees it, until the content producer earns their way into "your" group -- now that can be automated.

Elon has access to Exascale hardware, so K-means Clusters with arbitrarily large dimensionality is at his disposal.

Ya figure he might not have thought this through?

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