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"$43.5B on Lightning cable sales alone" ~ https://medium.com/swlh/the-real-reason-apple-doesnt-want-to...
You really think Apple sells $43B worth of Lightning cables?
Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
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Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
#462While I'm against forcing a company to use a specific connector (especially Apple where every millimeter counts), I think this was way overdue because of terribly slow USB 2.0 speeds even on "Pro" models that shoot ProRes and 48MP raws.
You realize that nowhere in the “mandate” are any speed requirements and most cheap USB C cords only support USB2 speeds?
Moreover, even the cheapest USB-C devices and cables I've seen happily work over USB 3 and I've yet to see anything with USB-C form factor that doesn't support USB 3 even if it's not mandatory.
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Power tools already have a standard, smart home is a totally different beast though, and AFAIK most items should use USB-C?
They most certainly do not. Each brand has their own battery platform.
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You realize that nowhere in the “mandate” are any speed requirements and most cheap USB C cords only support USB2 speeds?
Practically, I'd be really really surprised if Apple moved to USB-C but still keep USB 2 speeds. Moreover, even the cheapest USB-C devices and cables I've seen happily work over USB 3 and I've yet to see anything with USB-C form factor that doesn't support USB 3 even if it's not mandatory.
https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/27/ipad-10-slower-usb-c-po...
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I’m more hopeful that they’ll actually include drivers for those devices (probably not). It’d be nice to hook up a screen via hdmi instead of needing an Apple TV. Or plugging in a dock with regular mouse/keyboard attached.
USB-C iPads already support all of that, and you can already do those things today on current iPhones with an appropriate adapter -- search for "Lightning Digital AV Adapter" for an example.
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Absolutely. USB-C appeals to techies, people with an engineering mindset, because it's an elegant solution. It's one connector, with graceful handling of different use-cases from charging, through peripherals, to high-speed high throughput data transfer. But practically speaking, I've bought several HDMI adapters, had a hard time choosing a mouse that had USB-C a few years ago, have bought a new charger, lost MagSafe…
I have had Android phones where the USB-C port has failed bricking the device (can’t charge). Micro-USB was far worse, but USB-C still fails to often. Lightning appears to be much more robust (anecdotally watching friends devices, I have had few Apple iDevices). Mechanically and electrically, I like the lightning connector (although I loath proprietary shit generally).
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I think this meme started due to Nintendo (very inadvisedly) adopting a non-standard USB-C implementation for the Switch. It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if they'd used a proprietary connector on top of their modified implementation, but they left the connector unchanged and simply added a "use only official Nintendo chargers" warning which of course no one was going to follow. This did then, in fact, predictably…
is it still a problem?? recently bought a switch and only plugged to the official adapter that came with it, but my first thought was “too bulky” so was wondering if I can use my M1 air USB C charger on the go instead.
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I have about twelve Lightning cables (2 in car, 4 permanently installed at convenient locations, a few in my work bag, an couple in another bag and some currently missing) and one USB-C cable, which I use for charging my laptop. At some point soon, perhaps when I get a new iPhone, I am going to have to start buying more USB-C cables. I will then spend years looking at the end of cables to see what the connector looks…
You're gonna use your iPhone and iPad for another 15 years? I find that highly implausible
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Seriously. I will not take anyone seriously about how "Apple just cared about a better standard" when they literally don't allow it to be made a standard . It's just a connector. If you're not letting everyone use it, it's not about it being better... it's about rent-seeking. Which is exactly what the EU legislation seeks to end.
Not to shill for a trillion dollar megacorp, but when you've got lightning and the competition has USB mini, how exactly is that rent seeking? You've developed an objectively better product, don't you deserve something for it?
This isn't about lightning being better, because we were never offered a choice. Lightning being the only option when there is a clear market for alternatives is the obvious tell for rent seeking.
Re: Apple says iPhones will switch to USB-C chargers to comply with new EU law
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Cause the EU forces them to, lol. Yeah it ain't happening.
Why would the EU force a connector that is inferior in data transfer rates on everyone?