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Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by capableweb »

falcor84 wrote: post #41
echelon wrote: post #7

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Netflix should have bought out NBC, CBS/Paramount, Discovery, or (most significantly) HBO/WB. Or even just their perpetual streaming rights back in the 00's. Letting Discovery acquire WB was one of the biggest mistakes they've ever made. Just imagine if Netflix had the HBO and WB slate. Game of Thrones, all of DC, Cartoon Network... HBO has the superior content lineup, and they let that slide through their fingers. T…

>They still don't have a major fantasy, sci-fi, or superhero franchise outside of Stranger Things. They have The Witcher, which is quite big.

The Umbrella Academy, Love, Death & Robots, Black Mirror (seasons 3–5) and Arcane are also relatively popular shows in the mentioned categories.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by dragontamer »

brnt wrote: post #26
CharlesW wrote: post #18

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Personally, I'd prefer frictionless fragmentation to centralization. I'm never going to subscribe to Paramount+ (or Whatever+) to see one or two shows I'm interested in, but I'd gladly pay $3-5 to stream a season of Star Trek: Discovery . If there's also a Paramount+ bundle that includes all of their original and licensed content, that's fine too.

Frictionless fragmentation would be that services adhere to some standard API and that viewing tools (we optionally build ourselves) can simply sign in to an arbitrary list of services. If that were possible, then yes. For many streaming service, I can't even figure out if the support Linux (e.g. HBO does not explicitly state I can use their service with a browser on Linux). So, it makes no sense to sign up even if I…

> some standard API

Web browser is the standard API. And the viewing tool is Windows.

I know you wanna plug in your $20 to $50 dongle into an HDMI port and hope for the best, but your laptop will work fine, and I'm pretty sure your phone (Android / iOS) will also work fine.

> support Linux

Well there's another problem. Linux isn't a standard (Debian, Fedora, CentOS, Ubuntu all have different quirks). By the time we start looking at those weird hardware codec accelerators and whether or not Linux supports those drivers, you would have been done with your Windows + HDMI port.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by bcrosby95 »

GauntletWizard wrote: post #25
bcrosby95 wrote: post #16

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> I wonder of Netflix could have done anything to keep being so far ahead and offer content from so many other companies, or was it always doomed to last just a few years before everyone and their grandma started a streaming service. It was always doomed. There's only so far you can go with streaming services from a tech POV. Once you have a system that's fairly reliable at delivering the content, it's the content th…

Netflix saw that, pivoted to become a studio, and has had very mixed success at that. But that's not the point: What was magical about Netflix was the depth of it's backlog and that it had so much from all over. They were an aggregator, they never had "everything" but they had so damn much that something you wanted to watch but never got around to always popped up.

But it is the point. Netflix could only do that because they had tech that the studios didn't have. The studios don't need Netflix anymore to reach their online audiences.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by soco »

rwbt wrote: post #9

Good. This is likely an unpopular opinion but the internet was supposed to bring knowledge, creative expression and so much more to the masses. Instead it devolved into a dopamine delivery machine with non-stop binge consumption and addiction to everyone.

Like a recent article was saying, every new "breakthrough" means nowadays more worries about your personal life/info/safety...

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by dexterdog »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #33
CharlesW wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I'd prefer frictionless fragmentation to centralization. I'm never going to subscribe to Paramount+ (or Whatever+) to see one or two shows I'm interested in, but I'd gladly pay $3-5 to stream a season of Star Trek: Discovery . If there's also a Paramount+ bundle that includes all of their original and licensed content, that's fine too.

There are currently 55 episodes available for $10 per month on paramount+ or $3 per episode via Apple’s TV app, or $30 per season for seasons 1 thru 3 in Apple’s TV app. On Amazon, lower quality episodes are available for $2 each for seasons 1 thru 3. The seller wants $30 per season and you are looking to pay $3 to $5. The seller is also offering $10 to rent 4 seasons assuming you binge watch 55 episodes in a month.…

It actually sounds pretty terrible to pay $10/mo to watch a single show. Sure, they will let you watch other stuff, but if you just want the one show you still pay what amounts to almost an entire netflix subscription. You can own the blurays of all 3 seasons (a much higher quality video stream) for under $60 and likely even cheaper on a special which you can then keep or sell.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by dexterdog »

xypage wrote: post #10
fny wrote: post #6

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Why feel bad? Competition is a good thing. They enjoyed the ride while they could, now they need to fight to win.

Because Netflix was the competition, the competition for cable and expensive physical media. Now all the companies who took none of that risk are coming into streaming and get to take their IPs off Netflix, copying their system (but worse, Netflix isn't perfect but it has the best interface in my opinion), and taking it back to no real competition just the same big companies there were before with a new platform. And…

Netflix had a good interface when they had no vested interest. Now they just want to jam their own mostly terrible content down your throat because they don't have to pay as much to show it and it helps their own ratings.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by lotsofpulp »

dexterdog wrote: post #55
lotsofpulp wrote: post #33

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There are currently 55 episodes available for $10 per month on paramount+ or $3 per episode via Apple’s TV app, or $30 per season for seasons 1 thru 3 in Apple’s TV app. On Amazon, lower quality episodes are available for $2 each for seasons 1 thru 3. The seller wants $30 per season and you are looking to pay $3 to $5. The seller is also offering $10 to rent 4 seasons assuming you binge watch 55 episodes in a month.…

It actually sounds pretty terrible to pay $10/mo to watch a single show. Sure, they will let you watch other stuff, but if you just want the one show you still pay what amounts to almost an entire netflix subscription. You can own the blurays of all 3 seasons (a much higher quality video stream) for under $60 and likely even cheaper on a special which you can then keep or sell.

>You can own the blurays of all 3 seasons (a much higher quality video stream) for under $60 and likely even cheaper on a special which you can then keep or sell.

That is great, an additional option for people that want to watch,

My point is people’s problem is not accessibility, it is price. When I was younger, accessibility itself was the problem, but that problem is resolved for almost all popular media now.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by CharlesW »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #39
CharlesW wrote: post #35

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That was exactly my takeaway. I'd prefer to pay a few bucks to stream a show and/or season for a period of time.

That is what paramount is offering via their $10 per month option.

Yes, I'm aware of the available pricing/packaging options. What I want is à la carte streaming access to TV seasons for $3-5. What I don't want is a bunch of extraneous content I don't care about and another subscription to have to remember to cancel.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by brnt »

dragontamer wrote: post #52
brnt wrote: post #26

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Frictionless fragmentation would be that services adhere to some standard API and that viewing tools (we optionally build ourselves) can simply sign in to an arbitrary list of services. If that were possible, then yes. For many streaming service, I can't even figure out if the support Linux (e.g. HBO does not explicitly state I can use their service with a browser on Linux). So, it makes no sense to sign up even if I…

> some standard API Web browser is the standard API. And the viewing tool is Windows. I know you wanna plug in your $20 to $50 dongle into an HDMI port and hope for the best, but your laptop will work fine, and I'm pretty sure your phone (Android / iOS) will also work fine. > support Linux Well there's another problem. Linux isn't a standard (Debian, Fedora, CentOS, Ubuntu all have different quirks). By the time we s…

I use laptops and not dongles, but obviously they run Linux.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by over_bridge »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #57
dexterdog wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It actually sounds pretty terrible to pay $10/mo to watch a single show. Sure, they will let you watch other stuff, but if you just want the one show you still pay what amounts to almost an entire netflix subscription. You can own the blurays of all 3 seasons (a much higher quality video stream) for under $60 and likely even cheaper on a special which you can then keep or sell.

>You can own the blurays of all 3 seasons (a much higher quality video stream) for under $60 and likely even cheaper on a special which you can then keep or sell. That is great, an additional option for people that want to watch, My point is people’s problem is not accessibility, it is price. When I was younger, accessibility itself was the problem, but that problem is resolved for almost all popular media now.

I once spent 20 min trying to find which streaming service had the latest season of the Orville in New Zealand. Turns out none of them do. I tried to find a digital copy on every store I could think of and failed. I looked for the Blu-ray and learned that Fox isn't ever releasing one.

The whole time in the back of my mind I knew exactly where I could find it for free without any pain at all.

In my book if there's no legitimate way to get a digital copy then I'm sailing the high seas. The golden age of streaming is over.

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