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Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by 1123581321 »

echelon wrote: post #24
1123581321 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix couldn’t afford WB or NBC without slowing down the rest of their content production. A lot of the content they would’ve gotten doesn’t work well on streaming, as Warner is finding out. Spending time and money on a major network would’ve put them behind, and scared all their competitors early. By not weighing themselves down, they were able to build their massive library. Netflix tried hard to get the LotR rig…

> The Swedish video game and media company Embracer Group has purchased the rights to “Lord of the Rings,” “The Hobbit” and other properties from the Saul Zaentz Co. The terms of the details were not disclosed, but CNBC reports that “the purchase was a part of six acquisitions,” totaling $572.8 million. [1] > Details picked up by the Daily Mail show that Netflix is paying £370 million (about $502 million) for the rig…

I don’t see a choice here. They weren’t able to win the comprehensive rights purchase, and they also weren’t able to win the TV license that Amazon won.

All of these major streaming companies are trying to get all of the best deals and never make a bad show or movie.

Road Dahl is probably going to work well for them.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by scyzoryk_xyz »

CharlesW wrote: post #18
vardump wrote: post #2

The more fragmented the streaming services get, the more attractive piracy becomes.

Personally, I'd prefer frictionless fragmentation to centralization. I'm never going to subscribe to Paramount+ (or Whatever+) to see one or two shows I'm interested in, but I'd gladly pay $3-5 to stream a season of Star Trek: Discovery . If there's also a Paramount+ bundle that includes all of their original and licensed content, that's fine too.

This would shift the inventives back to where they should be for producers.

The old box office/TV rating systems were relatively public. Content producers had clear incentives and knew there was an advantage proportional to viewership.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by lotsofpulp »

CharlesW wrote: post #18
vardump wrote: post #2

The more fragmented the streaming services get, the more attractive piracy becomes.

Personally, I'd prefer frictionless fragmentation to centralization. I'm never going to subscribe to Paramount+ (or Whatever+) to see one or two shows I'm interested in, but I'd gladly pay $3-5 to stream a season of Star Trek: Discovery . If there's also a Paramount+ bundle that includes all of their original and licensed content, that's fine too.

There are currently 55 episodes available for $10 per month on paramount+ or $3 per episode via Apple’s TV app, or $30 per season for seasons 1 thru 3 in Apple’s TV app.

On Amazon, lower quality episodes are available for $2 each for seasons 1 thru 3.

The seller wants $30 per season and you are looking to pay $3 to $5.

The seller is also offering $10 to rent 4 seasons assuming you binge watch 55 episodes in a month. Or $20 in 2 months, or $30 for 3 months if you watch one every other day.

Looks like the options are there, just not at the desired price.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by rtkwe »

echelon wrote: post #19
rtkwe wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real question is would HBO have made the same amazing content under Netflix as it has under Warner? Netflix can't just bank on acquiring old media forever they need to also create new shows. Hopefully HBO continues to be great under Discovery.

Probably not, because Netflix content leadership sucks. But the Discovery boss recently claimed he wants more "comfort" programming than "destination tv", and that's a horrible sign. It signals they're leaning into more Honey Boo Boo and Ice Road Truckers-type content instead of Game of Thrones, Euphoria, Silicon Valley because it's cheaper to make.

If they weren't interested in making prestige TV then why buy HBO? That's the biggest thing HBO has going for it right now.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by CharlesW »

wollsmoth wrote: post #27
CharlesW wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I'd prefer frictionless fragmentation to centralization. I'm never going to subscribe to Paramount+ (or Whatever+) to see one or two shows I'm interested in, but I'd gladly pay $3-5 to stream a season of Star Trek: Discovery . If there's also a Paramount+ bundle that includes all of their original and licensed content, that's fine too.

I think you can do this on Amazon, but you have to "buy" the season. I did try this with one or two shows. But the price point is a little high considering I usually only watch once.

That was exactly my takeaway. I'd prefer to pay a few bucks to stream a show and/or season for a period of time.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by daveevad »

culturestate wrote: post #21

> Even when taking into consideration smaller services with less than 1M subscribers, there haven’t been any new streaming service launches in 2022. Not only did CNN+ launch in 2022, it also folded in 2022. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN%2B

I've been thinking about CNN+ a decent amount recently and wonder if the primary issue with the product was that it wasn't primarily a live product. It's my thinking that the best aspect of CNN is when it covers live breaking news in a way that feels like the story is unfolding before the viewer's eyes. CNN+'s reliance on VOD content and news personalities is not that captivating. A product that revealed the raw journalism in real-time would be really compelling.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by RockRobotRock »

vardump wrote: post #2

The more fragmented the streaming services get, the more attractive piracy becomes.

Why do you want streaming services to be centralized? Is everyone forgetting how awful cable TV subscriptions were?

You could subscribe to Netflix/Hulu/Peacock/Disney and still come under a lot of cable bills.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by lotsofpulp »

CharlesW wrote: post #35
wollsmoth wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you can do this on Amazon, but you have to "buy" the season. I did try this with one or two shows. But the price point is a little high considering I usually only watch once.

That was exactly my takeaway. I'd prefer to pay a few bucks to stream a show and/or season for a period of time.

That is what paramount is offering via their $10 per month option.

Re: No New Streaming Services Will Launch in 2022

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

vardump wrote: post #2

The more fragmented the streaming services get, the more attractive piracy becomes.

That is the part that really gets me. Content owners are desperately trying to recreate cable model. I am not exactly a full blown pirate ( I mostly stopped after Netflix delivered a decent experience at negligible cost ), but my buddy is a hoarder for lack of a better term. Steam/GOG made me stop game piracy altogether.

Now, I am slowly starting to face a very simple question with streaming. Do I want to maintain 3-4 active membership on the off chance something is there or do I just ask my buddy?

If it were not for my wife, Amazon would already be my only streaming service and even that only, because it is currently included.

I think my final straw was Dexter being locked behind Hulu's Showtime additional subscription. Just in case you are wondering, I did not ask my friend for it nor did I pay for it. Not yet anyway. I may have some free time coming in a couple of weeks to indulge.

Make it convenient for me. Make it goddamn one place. Do not try to nickel and dime me. You will lose. You are fighting against superior quality at zero price and with people, whose entire existence is collecting for no other reason than collecting.

You NEED to deliver minimum fuss to me. 20 streaming services is not minimum fuss.

Netflix was that. It had almost complete library, but you chose to blow it up in a panic of greed. Now, I don't care how you do it, but you ( media conglomerate ) better recognize this reality.

Signed.

At this time, still a customer.

edit: I forgot one more thing. Side bonus of moving back to piracy will be that my watching habits will not be up for sale to the highest bidder.

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