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I don't know anyone who do that on whatsapp.
Group messaging is extremely common. If you replaced this with calls, you would need some kind of group phone call. It was sarcasm.
I don't see how I could be in a situation where sending a message to a +50 group is critical.
Time to talk about matrix.org and Element not Signal and definitely not Telegram...
Why not Telegram, it has by far the best UX of all chat apps.
Telegram is great for other no privacy related stuff as bots, channels and groups.
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Core XMPP is decentralized today . Room chats standardization in XMPP started 20 years ago. Any server existing today has solved the issue whatsapp is facing right now.
what even is core xmpp? Don't you need XEPs to do any messaging in the first place?
Naysayers keep arguing that the jungle of XEPs make it too hard to implement and use and that's what halting the adoption of XMPP, but that's like saying no one is doing any web innovation because the specs are too big. The reality is that only a big name with continuous marketing work and advocacy is missing from XMPP, and is the one reason Matrix got where it is today.
I'm amazed people still use WhatsApp. We mostly abandoned it in the United States back in the mid 2010's. I mostly use it with friends over in european countries, just like I do with people in China with WeChat.
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Signal is as centralized as Whatsapp, so you could one day read the exact same headline for it
In fact, this did happen last year[1]. Moxie has infamously made the argument that decentralisation reduces reliability because if any one server goes down reliability is affected (ignoring that partial outages are better than total outages). [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/26/signal-the-encrypted-messa...
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You can improve the UX of Matrix clients. You can not make Telegram decentralized or take it out of control of one single entity.
Well if you can, then why aren't they as good as Telegram, and why should I be holding my breath for their UI / UX to suddenly improve? Matrix has been around for almost as long as Telegram. I don't use either so I don't really care. I just don't expect a consumer service with subpar UI to win market share solely on technical merits.
Time to talk about matrix.org and Element not Signal and definitely not Telegram...
I'm sorry but matrix is a convoluted mess. Speaking from experience, when there's a deep focus on protocols and technical architecture before usability it becomes incredibly hard for the consumer side to get started. It's still very much a DIY thing and the promise of Element hosted offerings kind of just defies the point of the federated design for what most came into it for, self hosting. Honestly, we just need a d…
XMPP, again and again. But that's not a solution, because the problem is absolutely not technical.
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The Matrix team seems to be focusing on anything but making it as performant and usable as Telegram or Slack. The project leaders have been told this multiple times but there is always a reason.
Speak for yourself. The recent addition of space-protected rooms eliminated one of the biggest issues preventing my local hackerspace from using it. (Of course, it did so roughly as we finally qualified for the nonprofit Slack plan, so it was a bit too late to have a real advantage - but it's an option now where it wasn't before.)
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Ham radio operators practice disaster ops, don't they ? How about indie email providers ?
I tried to go the self-hosted route. It became impossible to manage. I don't know how many hours I sunk in to figuring out why, seemingly randomly, my emails were being marked as spam by Google. If you can't get through to Google, you're effectively invisible for most people
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Well if you can, then why aren't they as good as Telegram, and why should I be holding my breath for their UI / UX to suddenly improve? Matrix has been around for almost as long as Telegram. I don't use either so I don't really care. I just don't expect a consumer service with subpar UI to win market share solely on technical merits.
It won't surprise you that to improve a product, you need people working on it. In a capitalistic society you need to pay them to do that. Telegram sits on the billions of its founders and doesn't need to make revenue, they have money. What company with an infinite supply of money (and, thus, developers, managers, QA, interviewers) are building a Matrix client and can afford to have as many people working in it ?