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WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by mcluck »

euroderf wrote: post #28
kaptainscarlet wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Email is slowly becoming centralised unfortunately as small providers are pushed out by big companies. So it won't be long until we have global email outages.

Ham radio operators practice disaster ops, don't they ? How about indie email providers ?

I tried to go the self-hosted route. It became impossible to manage. I don't know how many hours I sunk in to figuring out why, seemingly randomly, my emails were being marked as spam by Google. If you can't get through to Google, you're effectively invisible for most people

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by uptown »

spockz wrote: post #55
rglullis wrote: post #51

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I'm always befuddled by how some people really take things so literally...

Indeed. That is why I started using “one could” instead of “you can”. This prevented a lot of misunderstanding.

How can you possibly expect ONE person to do all of this? /s

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by k8sToGo »

sgt wrote: post #60
skc wrote: post #12

Yep, actually enjoying the lack of notifications right now. Though for my closest friends and family we still have Signal as backup.

Take my advice - switch off notifications. You'll still see the badge on the app itself e.g. with a red dot, at least that's how it is on iOS. So when you see that you'll know to open it. Before that, there's no reason to be bothered while you're doing something else.

Or just use Focus on iOS. You can then even select to whitelist certain people.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by Vinnl »

wakeupcall wrote: post #80
Vinnl wrote: post #43

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I mean, that's great and all, but it would still be pretty annoying if large parts of your network go down, and especially if matrix.org would go down.

But nobody is forcing you to use matrix.org, and if you have the resources it's easy to run a separate instance with peering, so that you get both the benefits of being able to communicate with everyone and have a faster/locally controlled instance with whatever rules you like. We're keeping one alive with friends, not because we need it, but because we can and it's easy to do so. We can argue matrix has not the most…

I might not use matrix.org, but when 90% of my friends do (and currently that's closer to 100%), that doesn't do much for me...

(But also: I don't have the resources to run a separate instance for myself, let alone for my friends.)

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by moffkalast »

d0mine wrote: post #72
mritzmann wrote: post #32

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Telegram (per default) does not have end-to-end encryption.

"Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line." https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram

"Company says they are more secure than competition"

Seems legit, I see no reason whatsoever not to trust them completely at their word. No company has ever lied to anyone before after all.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by d3nj4l »

tjixxu wrote: post #74
chagaif wrote: post #26

Time to talk about matrix.org and Element not Signal and definitely not Telegram...

The Matrix team seems to be focusing on anything but making it as performant and usable as Telegram or Slack. The project leaders have been told this multiple times but there is always a reason.

I'm unhappy with the python implementation's performance too (ran it on a $5 VPS for a while and then gave up) but I think the Go implementation is much better and catching up in features really quickly, and I'd be happy to give it a shot again when I have more time.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by gtirloni »

rglullis wrote: post #38
Ayesh wrote: post #34

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Yeah I don't even know if that upper post was meant to be sarcastic. Telegram, despite the security theater, is amazing UX-wise. It's such a joy to use and I see myself more and more engaging with Telegram contacts just because it's convenient in many subtle yet impactful ways.

You can improve the UX of Matrix clients. You can not make Telegram decentralized or take it out of control of one single entity.

> You can improve the UX of Matrix clients

Apparently, that has not been a priority in many years.

Matrix/Element is so far behind usability/features that it's really only used by people that favor decentralization/openess at the expense of actual users.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Post by devX3 »

d0mine wrote: post #72
mritzmann wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telegram (per default) does not have end-to-end encryption.

"Telegram is more secure than mass market messengers like WhatsApp and Line." https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram

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