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WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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> You can improve the UX of Matrix clients No. Most people can't do that (because not everyone is a software developer).

I don't think he means you, or the users that needs this, but instead that it is possible to do if they are open source.

I'm always befuddled by how some people really take things so literally...

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

#52

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Email is slowly becoming centralised unfortunately as small providers are pushed out by big companies. So it won't be long until we have global email outages.

Ham radio operators practice disaster ops, don't they ? How about indie email providers ?

Stubborn self hoster reporting for duty

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

#53
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Yep, actually enjoying the lack of notifications right now. Though for my closest friends and family we still have Signal as backup.

> actually enjoying the lack of notifications

Sounds like a nice way to test new notification settings before putting them into production. Now go and apply them ;)

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

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That's a good thing. Forcing people to give their phone number to use an instant messaging app/protocol is a sign the company just wants your private data. Also, by doing that and letting the account existence be publicly known, anyone with their phone number will know that they have an account on that service and lets you try to contact them. That can range from privacy violation to life-in-danger situations.

I adamantly refuse to register for accounts that require my phone number unless it's for commercial or official purposes. The likes of Google, Facebook and Microsoft can go take a long walk off a short plank. We give too much information away. Companies have shown that they are incapable of keeping the information private anyway. We get big scandals, the interwebs kick up a big stink, brows are furrowed, and then we…

I agree with you when it comes to random apps, but messengers are probably the only exception where I accept it.

If I gave my phone number to someone, I made an implicit social contract with that person or organization that they may contact me using that phone number. I don't see it as a big stretch if they use that number to send me a message or call me using WhatsApp, Signal or any other messenger where I registered using that same number. It's for the same purpose of communication, after all.

If I don't want to be contacted, I just don't share that number.

And it's not like people don't know that messengers or social networks can collect contact metadata about messages and calls. It's what traditional landline and mobile providers have been doing for ages.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

#55

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I don't think he means you, or the users that needs this, but instead that it is possible to do if they are open source.

I'm always befuddled by how some people really take things so literally...

Indeed. That is why I started using “one could” instead of “you can”. This prevented a lot of misunderstanding.

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

#59

Even though I do have WhatsApp I wouldn't have noticed without this HN headline. Everyone I message with is via iMessage or Signal nowadays and I only have WhatsApp because I am part of a few sports clubs which have a WhatsApp group but we don't chat enough for me to notice a downtime like today. Makes me happy to see how I've actually managed to rid myself of WhatsApp for the most part.

Same, I use iMessage for anything critical as friends and family are mostly on iPhones, but for those that aren't I use WhatsApp and Telegram.

In some countries WhatsApp is used by almost everyone. I wonder how much all those free users cost Meta each year. Just as a side thought :)

Re: WhatsApp goes down for users globally

#60
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Yep, actually enjoying the lack of notifications right now. Though for my closest friends and family we still have Signal as backup.

Take my advice - switch off notifications. You'll still see the badge on the app itself e.g. with a red dot, at least that's how it is on iOS. So when you see that you'll know to open it. Before that, there's no reason to be bothered while you're doing something else.
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