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Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Tell me how decentralized services allow applications to be permissionless, censorship- and sybil-resistant without a blockchain. I will make both of us rich.

Tells us how blockchain allows applications to be permissionless, censorship- and sybil-resistant in any way that matters and doesn't conflict with the use of said apps.

ENS and Handshake are exact examples of that.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Tell me how decentralized services allow applications to be permissionless, censorship- and sybil-resistant without a blockchain. I will make both of us rich.

Tell me how blockchain makes anything Sybil-resistant and I’ll bite. I can create as many Bitcoin/eth/etc wallets as I want.

Ethereum combats that with the concept of gas. You have to pay to play, which is a concept I’ve heard repeated tons of places for ending spam email.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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EFF is mostly funded by Google and co, and mostly advocates for policies such that they do not hurt Google and co . This involves advocating for good things, like opposing the FBI lead mandatory encryption backdoor. And... the opposite.

Source?

I don't think it's true. For 2020, >75% come from individuals; corporate is only a tiny fraction:

https://www.eff.org/files/annual-report/2020/index.html

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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>Am I missing something or are these two things not just not in the neighborhood, they are on different planets. Amazon owns Twitch. I think OP is highlighting that the EFF speaks out against Amazon's privacy practices while simultaneously supporting Amazon financially. Edit: "I think..."

You can be against something and still find yourself having to use things you complain about. Folks still eat food even though they are aghast at how farm workers are exploited in the world. You can support robust public transportation yet drive a car due to poor-to-no public transit. Sometimes, facebook is the best place to organize demonstrations against facebook. Just because you have complaints about the world do…

I get your point, but I still think they could go out of their way a bit more to use alternatives that align with their values.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Tell me how decentralized services allow applications to be permissionless, censorship- and sybil-resistant without a blockchain. I will make both of us rich.

Tell me how blockchain makes anything Sybil-resistant and I’ll bite. I can create as many Bitcoin/eth/etc wallets as I want.

There's plenty of really good criticisms of cryptocurrencies, but that's not one of them.

The whole point of proof of work is Sybil-resistance. Because your voting power is tied to your hash rate, you can't just conjure up a bunch of voting power by creating as many wallets as you want. Ethereum's move to proof of stake keeps Sybil resistance but trades the power consumption of PoW for some amount of centralisation (because you need to hold funds to vote).

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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The "they" you denied existed, of course. Look, the frame of your argument here is "the blockchain won't ever unilaterally make decisions you don't like like a big centralized tech company". And they do, and have, multiple times in the past. And lots of people didn't like that, in each case.

No. You are talking about three different groups and you calling both by the same "they": - One "they" is the Ethereum developers making new developments and proposing changes to the "main" blockchain. - The other "they" is the thousands of people who are developing and using applications that can be used by the most people, and care (mostly) about having one blockchain where they can reach the most people. - The thi…

> Ethereum Executes Blockchain Hard Fork to Return DAO Funds

> https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2016/07/20/ethereum-executes-b...

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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I have actually been receiving much spam from gmail addresses lately and have considered banning the domain altogether. > I was surprised to find out that my friend Peter Eckersley — a very privacy conscious person who is Technology Projects Director at the EFF — used Gmail I find that the EFF does this more often than not, like how they also criticize Amazon for giving police warrant-less access to Ring cameras... a…

Yawn. That's a classic "you say we can improve society? yet you participate in society, curious". Yes they use Twitch because millions of people are there and they need to reach a wide audience.

You don't even know what you're talking about. Their gatherings don't address "millions", but are typically just a hundred or so guys, mostly other donors. This could be hosted fine on an alternative like BBB.

Writing lazy and uninformed comments like yours on HN certainly is a classic though.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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What does Ethereum Name Service have to do with email domains? How does one receive email from e.g. one's bank, at a Handshake domain? The "real world" in which Handshake and ENS are useful isn't the world I'm living in.

I’m not necessarily defending web3, but you’re asking the wrong question. Your same question could have been asked about email in general in the early aughts. But clearly, mass adoption happened, and the calculus changed. Sure, your statement is strictly correct, but completely uninteresting.

What question did I ask that was "the wrong question"? I thought both the questions I put were rhetorical. Let's try:

"What does email have to do with email domains?"

"How does one receive email from e.g. one's bank, at an email domain?"

No, I don't think my questions could equally have been asked about email in the early aughts (nor at any other time - those rewritten questions don't make sense).

Mass adoption had already happened by the early aughts; email was adopted universally in the corporate world in the mid-nineties.

Of course, what is interesting to you is your business.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Tell me how blockchain makes anything Sybil-resistant and I’ll bite. I can create as many Bitcoin/eth/etc wallets as I want.

Ethereum combats that with the concept of gas. You have to pay to play, which is a concept I’ve heard repeated tons of places for ending spam email.

Gas doesn't do much for Cybil resistance, it's largely meant to stop you from clogging up the network by publishing a transaction that executes the busy beaver function on some nasty input, or something similarly hostile.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Is it known that domain registrars are better than GMail in this regard? Not asking sarcastically, but I had my domain taken over by registrar(not released to public, just registrar took control of it) after few week of notice when auto renew failed to charge my credit card, and my credit card was working fine elsewhere. Also many registrar like Namecheap cancelled subscription for Russian customers during this invas…

Now you know why there are still some people that still take "web3" seriously. It's the only system where you are not at the mercy of some external entity to be always benevolent. Seriously, ENS and Handshake alone should be enough of a reason to silence all of those who keep repeating "but blockchain has no real world applications".

Handshake was co-founded by the guy claiming to be a Korean prince who attacked (and killed) freenode and was very abusive to the open source projects formerly there. I wouldn't touch it. He is extremely litigative. ref: http://www.hashedpost.com/2018/11/hashed-people-handshake-co...

The first part of his attack on Freenode was his attempt to push his Handshake cryptocurrency on the users there. It escalated quickly after this failed. ref: https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2018/08/02/handshake-reveal...

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