What if Google discontinues Gmail next week, like they did with so many other services? Are you prepared?
Yes, I use fastmail and my own domain.
Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
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Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
Making sure that your domain registration is always current is not a difficult thing, though. You can register for fairly long periods of time, and set up multiple alerts to manually renew long before it expires.
My register doesn’t allow registrations longer than 1 year. Their reason: “ We've found that longer registration periods lead to a higher chance of customers losing or forgetting their account details or missing notifications and ultimately letting their domains expire due to outdated contact information or expired credit card details.” I’m wondering whether that’s valid and if I should find a new registrar…
That is made up reason. Extension periods depend on TLD providers. I've just checked and e.g. OVH lets me renew .com domain until 2030. You max our renewal now, then setup some "domains housekeeping" day in your yearly calendar to puth the expiration date every year. Pity I can't do that with some proven and basic hosting to prepaid a few years ahead.
Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Am I missing something or are these two things not just not in the neighborhood, they are on different planets. Amazon owns Twitch. I think OP is highlighting that the EFF speaks out against Amazon's privacy practices while simultaneously supporting Amazon financially. Edit: "I think..."
You can be against something and still find yourself having to use things you complain about. Folks still eat food even though they are aghast at how farm workers are exploited in the world. You can support robust public transportation yet drive a car due to poor-to-no public transit. Sometimes, facebook is the best place to organize demonstrations against facebook. Just because you have complaints about the world do…
I think the food example doesn't work because it's not optional.
Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is it known that domain registrars are better than GMail in this regard? Not asking sarcastically, but I had my domain taken over by registrar(not released to public, just registrar took control of it) after few week of notice when auto renew failed to charge my credit card, and my credit card was working fine elsewhere. Also many registrar like Namecheap cancelled subscription for Russian customers during this invas…
People from the UK that had an .eu domain were unable to renew it after brexit.
The difference here is that people from the UK voted for losing the right to renew their .eu domains.
Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#115And that's why services like Tutanota ( https://tutanota.com/ ) and Proton Mail ( http://protonmail.com/ ) offer the option to send password protected / encrypted email to third-party. This can be used to prevent Google or Microsoft from spying on your emails as the actual email is never sent to their server. Yes, sharing passwords beforehand can be a pain. But even if you SMS / message them the password, or just put…
- These domains sound weird (for average Joe)
- Even if they office 5GB for they average Joe will try
- BTW, I bet they cannot do proper customer service if they have a 10th of the google's customers
- We at a German scientific institution got email services from a Berlin based (privacy first, eco-friendly) provider (starting with letter M-). We had significant issues with SSO, email-sync (in outlook), password resets were painful (as these were emailed to the admins in plain-text - seemingly someone manually reset it at the provider), No 2FA, calendar-sync worked awful in iPhones.
Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#116What if Google discontinues Gmail next week, like they did with so many other services? Are you prepared?
In all honesty, I think that would lead to some form of nationalization of Gmail to force it to continue as a service. Approximately half of Americans use Gmail and that is "too big to fail".
Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#117The discussion around email continues to come up time and time again. It yields significant power, it's your online identity effectively, used to access, communicate and unlock everything. We all have some level of discomfort with someone else owning the infrastructure for this having seen what happens if you get locked out. What is the answer? Is it really self hosting? Such a subpar experience. Consumers can't be e…
> Costs more but no one can kick you out unless you stop paying your mortgage. that. depends. You can host it cheaply if shared with family members, may be cheaper than paying for email provider.
Well this leads to my next question. Community led infrastructure. Why is it not a thing? I think that's social housing in the real world. Why does it not exist for digital services? I know we open source things but nothing is run by a community. A potential outcome is to run email as a community.
Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#118Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go through that exercise of ditching that email. You will find out the 2-3 things you need absolute plan a/b/c for. Seriously, reset your email password to something you can never remember and write it down and have someone hold it for a month (don’t tell them what is it, tuck it in an envelope). Let your mind run circles around your fears and you’ll find out how little that email account owns you. Freezing one credi…
Sounds like an insane inconvenience. Sorry, what was the point of doing all this again? Just to prove you can?
Nah, just to prove that you can't.
Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)
#120Having your own email/domain isn’t about privacy. Email has become essentially the key to almost everything in modern life. If I lose access to my email I lose access to basically everything I own and it would be a massive hassle to switch emails. Banks, schools, apps, etc. Often times these services won’t even let you change to a new email if you don’t have access to an existing one. Some use email as 2factor. It’s…
Go through that exercise of ditching that email. You will find out the 2-3 things you need absolute plan a/b/c for. Seriously, reset your email password to something you can never remember and write it down and have someone hold it for a month (don’t tell them what is it, tuck it in an envelope). Let your mind run circles around your fears and you’ll find out how little that email account owns you. Freezing one credi…
This is a technology equivalent of “purposefully don’t drink water for several days and see yourself nearly die”.