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Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by yuvalr1 »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #42
cglan wrote: post #26

Having your own email/domain isn’t about privacy. Email has become essentially the key to almost everything in modern life. If I lose access to my email I lose access to basically everything I own and it would be a massive hassle to switch emails. Banks, schools, apps, etc. Often times these services won’t even let you change to a new email if you don’t have access to an existing one. Some use email as 2factor. It’s…

Is it known that domain registrars are better than GMail in this regard? Not asking sarcastically, but I had my domain taken over by registrar(not released to public, just registrar took control of it) after few week of notice when auto renew failed to charge my credit card, and my credit card was working fine elsewhere. Also many registrar like Namecheap cancelled subscription for Russian customers during this invas…

Sounds bad. Is there anything we can do about it? What is the most reliable domain registrar?

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by einpoklum »

bushbaba wrote: post #41

The US should use the current market decline to split up Google. Splitting it up would allow for more competition and overall improve the tech sector. Ideally you'd see the government force a split up Youtube, Cloud, Search, and their Ad Exchange into separate companies.

If the US government does this, you can be pretty sure it'll keep taking copies of all email in the split-up Google as well.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by [deleted] »

jeffbee wrote: post #40
ggm wrote: post #10

google/gmail is also one of the principal agents which declares by fiat "your own domain self-run mail is spam because I think its spam" which then propagates to other mail providers. SPF/DKIM no matter: if they decide it's spammy, un-doing this decision is appeal to a star chamber you cannot interact with directly.

By what mechanism do you believe this information "propagates" to other mail operators?

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Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by ekianjo »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #25
juunpp wrote: post #2

I have actually been receiving much spam from gmail addresses lately and have considered banning the domain altogether. > I was surprised to find out that my friend Peter Eckersley — a very privacy conscious person who is Technology Projects Director at the EFF — used Gmail I find that the EFF does this more often than not, like how they also criticize Amazon for giving police warrant-less access to Ring cameras... a…

I find their messaging sometimes does not tie well with their actions. Not everybody can be RMS. As an EFF supporter, I don't want them to waste my donations by withdrawing from the world and handicapping themselves unnecessarily.

you dont want them to live by their principles? if they dont, who will?

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by cube00 »

YeBanKo wrote: post #46
cglan wrote: post #26

Having your own email/domain isn’t about privacy. Email has become essentially the key to almost everything in modern life. If I lose access to my email I lose access to basically everything I own and it would be a massive hassle to switch emails. Banks, schools, apps, etc. Often times these services won’t even let you change to a new email if you don’t have access to an existing one. Some use email as 2factor. It’s…

What email do you use with domain registrar? I ended up switching most if mine domains to google domains simply because i find its ui more convenient for me, all eggs in one basket i guess. But how do you ensure that you aren’t gonna loose access to your domain account?

Given the way Google locks out accounts with no support or appeal I can't think of a worse registrar to use.

I use my ISP's email address with my registrar, if they want to keep getting paid each month its in their interests to keep that email address working.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by texaslonghorn5 »

jkepler wrote: post #70
texaslonghorn5 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if this was added after your comment, but in the second line of their post jamiek88 said > To this day I have no idea why the card didn't pay as always. One can infer that the credit card did not auto-pay, the domain expired, and Namecheap immediately resold the domain to a squatter rather than first reaching out to jamiek88 to confirm that the non-renewal was intentional.

Pay a bit more annually to a reputable DNS company. For example, I initially whet with GoDaddy, until about ten years ago when I read that they were shutting down people's domains simply upon a "we're investigating thisbperson, kill their domain" letter from the US Marshals (a Federal police force). Around the same time I heard about easyDNS in Canada, and discovered that they will only ever seize one of their custom…

I'm not jamiek88, I was just summarizing events, did you mean to reply to me?

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by SXX »

yuvalr1 wrote: post #71
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it known that domain registrars are better than GMail in this regard? Not asking sarcastically, but I had my domain taken over by registrar(not released to public, just registrar took control of it) after few week of notice when auto renew failed to charge my credit card, and my credit card was working fine elsewhere. Also many registrar like Namecheap cancelled subscription for Russian customers during this invas…

Sounds bad. Is there anything we can do about it? What is the most reliable domain registrar?

So far Gandi was posted as reliable company and over last 10 years I had no issues with them. One good feature is that you dont have to be owner to renew domain name registered with them. So in case you temporary lose access to your account you can still pay for domains. They also allow to keep credit balance for auto renew.

I really didnt have much of issues to talk about so no idea how good is their support at solving them, but at least I have peace of mind when it comes to renewal.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by urthor »

javajosh wrote: post #5
juunpp wrote: post #2

I have actually been receiving much spam from gmail addresses lately and have considered banning the domain altogether. > I was surprised to find out that my friend Peter Eckersley — a very privacy conscious person who is Technology Projects Director at the EFF — used Gmail I find that the EFF does this more often than not, like how they also criticize Amazon for giving police warrant-less access to Ring cameras... a…

>police warrant-less access to Ring cameras... and then stream their online gatherings live on Twitch Streaming a public event on twitch vs on-demand warrentless police access to on-prem cameras? Am I missing something or are these two things not just not in the neighborhood, they are on different planets.

EFF is mostly funded by Google and co, and mostly advocates for policies such that they do not hurt Google and co.

This involves advocating for good things, like opposing the FBI lead mandatory encryption backdoor. And... the opposite.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by readsadhours »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #42
cglan wrote: post #26

Having your own email/domain isn’t about privacy. Email has become essentially the key to almost everything in modern life. If I lose access to my email I lose access to basically everything I own and it would be a massive hassle to switch emails. Banks, schools, apps, etc. Often times these services won’t even let you change to a new email if you don’t have access to an existing one. Some use email as 2factor. It’s…

Is it known that domain registrars are better than GMail in this regard? Not asking sarcastically, but I had my domain taken over by registrar(not released to public, just registrar took control of it) after few week of notice when auto renew failed to charge my credit card, and my credit card was working fine elsewhere. Also many registrar like Namecheap cancelled subscription for Russian customers during this invas…

People from the UK that had an .eu domain were unable to renew it after brexit.

Re: Google has most of my email because it has all of yours (2014)

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Post by csande17 »

komali2 wrote: post #60
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it known that domain registrars are better than GMail in this regard? Not asking sarcastically, but I had my domain taken over by registrar(not released to public, just registrar took control of it) after few week of notice when auto renew failed to charge my credit card, and my credit card was working fine elsewhere. Also many registrar like Namecheap cancelled subscription for Russian customers during this invas…

But what's the alternative? Does SMTP even work without a domain? I dipped my toes in this far enough to connect a custom domain to a mailbox hosted by bluehost so I don't know too much but I always seek to separate from Google et al wherever possible. I thought the buck stops at DNS and domain registration though, short of like, that gnu internet project I vaguely remember, what's the alternative?

You can theoretically send email to an IP address directly, like someone@[127.0.0.1], but I imagine a lot of the programs and websites you'd want to use don't know that. And you're still left with the problem of needing to get that IP address from someone who can arbitrarily take it away from you.
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