> An unbroken lineage to people of ancient times, known as a descent from antiquity, still remains to be historically proven. Such records exist in Chinese culture, in particular in Taiwan and the diaspora, as they have not been interrupted before the Cultural Revolution.
Living descendants of Mark Antony
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Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#52If the average age of giving birth is 25, Mark Antony would be about 80 generations ago. With each generation back doubling the number of ancestors (2 parents, 4 grandparents, …), this person has a theoretical 2^80 ancestors - somewhat more than the number of people that have ever lived. So clearly that logic is flawed, and the family tree must in fact be a family web - but potentially a very, very wide one. I wouldn…
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#53Such paper lineages assume that none of the fathers were cuckolded. DNA is the only way to be sure.
« Non-paternity events » occur at a rate of a few percents a given generation at best, but it's enough that at this scale even a rock-solid documents trail isn't proof of descent.
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#54If the average age of giving birth is 25, Mark Antony would be about 80 generations ago. With each generation back doubling the number of ancestors (2 parents, 4 grandparents, …), this person has a theoretical 2^80 ancestors - somewhat more than the number of people that have ever lived. So clearly that logic is flawed, and the family tree must in fact be a family web - but potentially a very, very wide one. I wouldn…
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#55If the average age of giving birth is 25, Mark Antony would be about 80 generations ago. With each generation back doubling the number of ancestors (2 parents, 4 grandparents, …), this person has a theoretical 2^80 ancestors - somewhat more than the number of people that have ever lived. So clearly that logic is flawed, and the family tree must in fact be a family web - but potentially a very, very wide one. I wouldn…
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029453-500-inbreedi...
> "“In the distant past, human populations were probably only in the thousands or at best tens of thousands, and lived locally, exchanging mates only with their nearest neighbours.”"
International shipping, and now, air travel, has changed this - the 20th century and the population boom have led to more genetic mixing than at any point in human history.
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#56As a very low self-esteem person, I envy the self-confidence of the author. In high school he seems more of a man than I will ever be.
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#57If the average age of giving birth is 25, Mark Antony would be about 80 generations ago. With each generation back doubling the number of ancestors (2 parents, 4 grandparents, …), this person has a theoretical 2^80 ancestors - somewhat more than the number of people that have ever lived. So clearly that logic is flawed, and the family tree must in fact be a family web - but potentially a very, very wide one. I wouldn…
Furthermore for an ancestor that far back, many of their descendants may not even have inherited any of their actual genes.
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#58If the average age of giving birth is 25, Mark Antony would be about 80 generations ago. With each generation back doubling the number of ancestors (2 parents, 4 grandparents, …), this person has a theoretical 2^80 ancestors - somewhat more than the number of people that have ever lived. So clearly that logic is flawed, and the family tree must in fact be a family web - but potentially a very, very wide one. I wouldn…
https://www.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/2...
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the correct answer. The entire population of Europe is about as descended from Mark Antony as that Georgian noble house. Only the Y-chromosome is lineally passed across such long time spans
Does it follow that same would apply for all humans of Mark Antony's time?
Re: Living descendants of Mark Antony
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Furthermore for an ancestor that far back, many of their descendants may not even have inherited any of their actual genes.
Given that we share somewhere well north of 99% of our genes with every other human being that sounds unlikely.