Just pay for a top of the line port-a-potty cleaned and purged daily. Will be cheaper and won’t look that bad. I used to hang out at the park daily with my dog. It would work out just fine.
San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
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#622Just pay for a top of the line port-a-potty cleaned and purged daily. Will be cheaper and won’t look that bad. I used to hang out at the park daily with my dog. It would work out just fine.
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#623Why is it that the deepest blue areas of the country have some of the most abject inequity and poverty? It seems that there's a fine line between compassion and enablement when it comes to the deep blue municipalities of New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, etc. Sure the rustbelt, deep south, and Appalachia are areas with similar problems and mixed politics, but they also somehow feel different.
Because those things are a result of progressive policies.
At this point, Florida and Texas have record net in-flux migration from California. Can't wait to see this competition completely kick California's butt. It is a shame, I am stuck here, I'd move otherwise. With all my heart, I want to improve California. I just don't see a way.
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#624The real solution to the public defecation crisis is either unlocking bathrooms at night or more “single” use plastic bags. Anyone knows dog parks have less shit around when there are bags readily available, but somehow they haven’t connected that to the city in general. It used to be you could pretty reliably find a good clean plastic bag in any trash can. Not so anymore. Problem is anyone proposing this in governme…
Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#625Price doesn’t seem that outrageous to me. Public bathrooms in cities get destroyed and are very difficult to maintain; a lot of cities give up on free restrooms entirely. One of the biggest perks of working downtown in a moderately sized or larger city is being able to go to the bathroom there outside of work hours. I priced out some relatively minor kitchen/bathroom renovation work in 2018 at around $100k. Put it of…
I'm in a big city in Canada and there was a downtown farmer's market here for a while. Literally smack in the middle of the city, went up and down a few streets on Saturday mornings. Loved going, was a short walk and had lots of good eats, local produce, etc.
But no bathrooms. None of the local places would let you in if you weren't paying, and the only way I could make a head call was at the local YMCA -- and the only reason they let me in was cuz I was a member of their gym.
It's crazy to me how you can be in the center a huge edifice of planning, piping, conduits, etc. and still not be able to find a toilet.
edit: they did normally have porta-johns but didn't this morning. On at least one occasion I'd seen people tip them over, hopefully with no one in them.
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#626I'd really like to read an anonymous report from someone working in the government and who understands why the city is such a mess. Like, I read so many theories, but they mostly seem to be written by people with an agenda or who have no clue.
But to talk about the nationwide problem that building anything anywhere takes orders of magnitude too long and too much, there's no smoking gun. It seems to be a combination of factors from understaffed government agencies, to invested interests, to out of date regulations, to just bad engineering and planning.[2][3]
[0] https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco-pricey-t...
[1] https://www.trashcanswarehouse.com/Municipal-Trash-Cans-and-...
[2] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/why-we-cant-figure-o...
[3] https://www.vox.com/22534714/rail-roads-infrastructure-costs...
Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#627The real solution to the public defecation crisis is either unlocking bathrooms at night or more “single” use plastic bags. Anyone knows dog parks have less shit around when there are bags readily available, but somehow they haven’t connected that to the city in general. It used to be you could pretty reliably find a good clean plastic bag in any trash can. Not so anymore. Problem is anyone proposing this in governme…
Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#628The real solution to the public defecation crisis is either unlocking bathrooms at night or more “single” use plastic bags. Anyone knows dog parks have less shit around when there are bags readily available, but somehow they haven’t connected that to the city in general. It used to be you could pretty reliably find a good clean plastic bag in any trash can. Not so anymore. Problem is anyone proposing this in governme…
I don't think it's even possible to solve the public toilet problem without first solving the drug abuse problem. Everyone agrees it would be ideal to have toilet access to everyone, but no one has an answer for how you design a toilet that's impossible to abuse.
We need to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good, or the whole city turns into a toilet.
Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#629Why is it that the deepest blue areas of the country have some of the most abject inequity and poverty? It seems that there's a fine line between compassion and enablement when it comes to the deep blue municipalities of New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, etc. Sure the rustbelt, deep south, and Appalachia are areas with similar problems and mixed politics, but they also somehow feel different.
Re: San Francisco is spending $1.7M on one public toilet
#630Price doesn’t seem that outrageous to me. Public bathrooms in cities get destroyed and are very difficult to maintain; a lot of cities give up on free restrooms entirely. One of the biggest perks of working downtown in a moderately sized or larger city is being able to go to the bathroom there outside of work hours. I priced out some relatively minor kitchen/bathroom renovation work in 2018 at around $100k. Put it of…