It says a lot about the incredible success of the Raspberry Pi that headline features in Ubuntu releases are now aimed specifically at it.
Too bad you can't get a W for less than $50 right now.
Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
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Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
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> Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch took me a lot more work to get set up but once it was it's been pretty invisible, which is how I like my OS to be. I think that Fedora Workstation[1] is a #1 alternative to Ubuntu in terms of smoothness and ease of use. And if .deb is a requirement – then simply Debian. [1] https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/
I went to flavours of Ubuntu (Pop/Mint) to Manjaro, to Fedora. I love fedora, it just works. I've had 1 issue so far, NVidia GPU on Dell XPS 15. Had to disable noveau and its rock solid.
Kind of creepy, but you just described, step for step, how I ended up running Fedora's KDE Spin on all my boxes over the past year. I really wanted to like Manjaro, I mean the AUR is incredible and their visual design even uses all my favorite colors, but despite my best efforts it felt alien to me in a way I can't well articulate.
Now enter Fedora for the past 4-5 months and I have to say I'm rather impressed. In particular, their package archives seem to keep current with a lot of the software I rely on far better than Debian/Ubuntu. Using dnf feels much more familiar than pacman ever did, and as of now I feel like my search for a daily driver has ended. I would recommend anyone else that's not happy with the experience of Ubuntu anymore to do likewise and see how Fedora feels in its place.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
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Does System76 have a sustainable business? My concern would be putting time invested into their tech, then later finding support gone wrong.
They seem to. They sell computers (with Ubuntu or Pop!_OS). I'm at least the 2nd one to get one at my work (that I know of). They're not "cheap", and if you know what they are and what you are doing you could just buy a similar model for a bit less and install linux on that.(they're rebadged clevos, I've replaced a fan on one..) But if you buy from them it comes with linux pre-installed (yeah!) which saves time and s…
I've had a System 76 laptop for a few months now and I'm pretty happy with it. They've done a good job with Pop!Os, it's the only distro I've found that has made Gnome usable for me out of the box.
The only downside over my previous laptop (Dell XPS) is that I can no longer run 2 external monitors, the System 76 hardware just doesn't seem to be able to handle it.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#174I used to use Ubuntu for everything and was very happy in the massive Ubuntu ecosystem with a .deb for everything till I was forced to use Snap a few releases ago for installing even some basic utils I used on a daily basis. I then had Snap constantly hang on installs and just break for no apparent reason and waste my time debugging it. It didn't "just work" anymore. Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch…
Canonical really showed their colors with Snap I think. The base concept is obviously one desired by many users, as evidenced by the existence of alternatives like Flatpak and AppImage which both(?) predate it, not to mention ROX AppDirs, GNUStep Application Bundles, and a few others. But Canonical insists on their own implementation which is entirely controlled by them. Only they have a Snap repo, they follow the ha…
I honestly hope not. I like the fact that other distros are trying things themselves. If you don't like it, just switch to a different one. Whats the point of different distros if they all do the same thing?
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
eh Fedora requires many additional steps to get hardware accelerated video decoding or proprietary drivers working. With Ubuntu it's all out of the box.
Seconded. Fedora is very much NOT an all-ready-out-of-the-box experience, unless you are a FLOSS dev.
> Fedora is very much NOT an all-ready-out-of-the-box experience, unless you are a FLOSS dev.
Nah it's pretty close if you have an integrated Intel or AMD system, you really don't need closed-source drivers for much except Nvidia these days. Chrome is in the non-free Fedora repositories (or can be installed easily from the website with an .rpm) and that's all most normal users need.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#176I looked for the 22.10 download a few hours ago and didn't see it so I did a Google search and found today's comment about it possibly being delayed: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1436351/when-will-ubuntu-22-...
I'm downloading it from:
https://releases.ubuntu.com/kinetic/ https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.10/
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
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More like continuously trying to reinvent the wheel and giving up.
Yup. Seems like they consistently invent their own thing that's different than what RH/Suse/etc... come up with, then give up and just use that thing (Upstart vs. Systemd, Mir vs. Wayland, Unity vs. Gnome Shell and now Snap will probably lose to Flatpak...).
I think the Linux community's reflexive hatred of anything Canonical does is a major turn off. Unity wasn't bad, and judging by how much Wayland has struggled I am curious what would have happened if Mir was still around.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
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> one of the primary points of containerization is the ability to have multiple copies of an application running in parallel using different "application images". One should be able to upgrade (i.e. install a new image in parallel to the old one) without disrupting existing execution environments. Would you like to run a completely new Firefox with a completely new profile whenever you update it? You do know that you…
No, but the issue here seems to be a problem with the underlying snap system, not with the concept. It should be possible to have multiple containers that, when run, access the same persistent data. So the workflow would be: 1. Install and start Firefox. There is one container and one directory full of profiles. 2. Start the upgrade. This creates a second Firefox installation (container) sharing the same profile dire…
And snapd has all of the information it needs to do all of this. "Is Firefox Running?" is a tricky question in a traditional package install, because there's a number of ways you can launch a program and "ps |grep firefox" isn't quite right. But that's not the case for snapd! It is the executor and all launches to Firefox have to pass through it; If you launch Firefox while it's running and there's an update queued, it should be able to pass that on to the old version, while still being able to handle "This program is exiting and has an update queued, so let's update it now".
Every critical piece of information is available to Snapd, and yet, they have chosen the wrong and broken implementation.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#179I used to use Ubuntu for everything and was very happy in the massive Ubuntu ecosystem with a .deb for everything till I was forced to use Snap a few releases ago for installing even some basic utils I used on a daily basis. I then had Snap constantly hang on installs and just break for no apparent reason and waste my time debugging it. It didn't "just work" anymore. Swapped to Arch and haven't looked back yet, Arch…
I strongly recommend Pop!_OS as a great solution for 'snapless Ubuntu '. I buy System76 machines with it, but also install it on a bunch of my other non-System76 machines. The whole family uses it.
Re: Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu
#180The Ubuntu Pro ads and this release have all come at an interesting time... Fedora and the stock Gnome eco-system are getting better and better... Debian voting to include non-free software. Google is using Debian for things these days, Steam switching to Arch... For myself, I'm now using OpenSUSE MicroOS (immutable root OS, everything else is containerized with Flatpak or Toolbox/Podman, repos based on Tumbleweed) a…
They are definitely going through some growing pains thats for sure.