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Re: An account was suspended

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Post by MikePlacid »

briffle wrote: post #170
MikePlacid wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve stopped using Amazon after AWS started political censorship. Actually, saves you a lot of money: much less impulse buying. It appears a lot of my impulse buying was caused by my trust in Amazon return policy :)

that is not political censorship, it is illegal for US businesses to do business with Russia because of sanctions. The sanctions themselves are political, but not following them is not a choice for US businesses.

My trigger was not Russia, it was de-platforming of Parler. I kinda care more about my life in the US and consider political de-platforming an extremely dangerous development. A “trigger” caused by my “living experience” as my son interprets it (but I think it’s more logical than that).

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by jtbayly »

dimitrios1 wrote: post #45
Turing_Machine wrote: post #38

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> Sometimes they are on Twitter, then you need to be there. Wow, that's a depressing thought. I think I'd prefer to find a different line of business, if it were me.

It's a false choice. If your customers are somewhere, you could be there too, and that often has the least amount of friction or is the easiest choice, so it's understandable why so many people elect to do it. But another thing you could do is bring them to where you are.

Not without going to get them, first, which requires you to go to where they are... eg Twitter.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by AlfeG »

briffle wrote: post #170
MikePlacid wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve stopped using Amazon after AWS started political censorship. Actually, saves you a lot of money: much less impulse buying. It appears a lot of my impulse buying was caused by my trust in Amazon return policy :)

that is not political censorship, it is illegal for US businesses to do business with Russia because of sanctions. The sanctions themselves are political, but not following them is not a choice for US businesses.

Only when it's not. It's legal for AWS to have business with Russian entities. It's illegal to have business with occupied territories (LNR/DPR in particular).

It's like You know. I have not suffered enough according to those sanctions. Lost a flat of my mother in my homeland. And now loss Amazon/IMBD accounts. Seems that I will be loosing my Google account soon.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by jonathanstrange »

tb_technical wrote: post #95
jonathanstrange wrote: post #42

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Personally, I think this might have been the right decision, though not for the reason given. If you remove accounts of people who frequently do not contribute anything useful to discussions, you'll get overall better discussions.

The same could be said for your contributions, and in my enlightened post-truth regime people like you would be the foundation of my new space program. You would be enlisted (by force) to be the first astronauts to visit the sun.

I hear you, but have to point out that sending people into the sun is more drastic than merely suspending their accounts.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by rchaud »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #38
capableweb wrote: post #28

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If it was only so easy. If you're running a business, you most likely need to meet people where they are at. Sometimes, your target audience are mostly on Facebook, then you most likely need to be at Facebook in order to reach them. Sometimes they are on Twitter, then you need to be there. Other times, you're doing something completely different, like running a restaurant, then you need to be visible on Google Maps/T…

> Sometimes they are on Twitter, then you need to be there. Wow, that's a depressing thought. I think I'd prefer to find a different line of business, if it were me.

Or, like most businesses, you can use automated tools to post messages on Twitter without having to actually browse it.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by cvwright »

pohuing wrote: post #81
throwup wrote: post #52

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I had a Discord account created in 2015 that I had always used with their Android app. Then one day I logged in with Firefox and boom, suddenly and permanently banned. I'm not sure what the lesson is here... maybe avoid uBlock and submit to the surveillance?

I've been using discord on actually all platforms and browsers out there with and without ad blockers and it was never an issue. Maybe some server you were in was hit with a blanket ban and the timing just coincided with you using FF?

Maybe you were spared because you also use other browsers.

They really don’t like Firefox though. Had a coworker get bitten by this recently.

Mozilla should sue them. Or start suggesting matrix.org when the user tries to visit Discord.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by Izkata »

jacobriis wrote: post #35
OJFord wrote: post #4

'permanently suspended' is weird in itself isn't it? Just avoiding the word 'banned' or similar.. but butchering other words into meaning the same thing?

It's such a power move to dictate things that don't make sense or that are internally inconsistent. Suspended: Caused to stop for a while; interrupted or delayed. You are permanently stopped for a while. Unfortunately: Happening through bad luck Through bad luck (not an intentional decision we are making), our policy prohibits that. Unfortunately, your account has been permanently suspended.

Also,

> has been

"we didn't do it, it just sort of happened"

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by OJFord »

ipqk wrote: post #83
OJFord wrote: post #4

'permanently suspended' is weird in itself isn't it? Just avoiding the word 'banned' or similar.. but butchering other words into meaning the same thing?

I think there's a subtle difference. A person is banned, but the account is permanently suspended. Trump himself was banned, and one of his accounts @realDonaladTrump was permanently suspended.

Fair point, but it's whether 'suspension' can be 'permanent' I was commenting on really, rather than that it ought to be 'banned' specifically. ('Disabled' perhaps when talking about the account, with the distinction you highlight.)

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by luckylion »

dimitrios1 wrote: post #97
luckylion wrote: post #61

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If your business outreach succeeding requires you to first convince people that they should stop using some platform that is important to them, you might as well give up on your original business because you're probably going to spend all your time on that effort.

What if I told you I own a bookstore?

I'd say you must be a man of principle who enjoys suffering. Getting people off of Twitter and into bookstores is probably not the fight you want to spend your life on, unless you expect some great author to chronicle your adventures.

Re: An account was suspended

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Post by giarc »

This is much ado about nothing. I'm glad the account was banned, it means the system is working. Even he admits it makes sense "For the record, this is a new account that has posted a bunch of links (all Stratechery interviews) in a short amount of time, from multiple locations around the world." So all of this is because some copywriter at Twitter wrote "After careful review" instead of something like "after automated review". He claims in his bio "home on the internet" but then gets upset over some copy like this? Come on!
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