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Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by AdriaanvRossum »

WallyFunk wrote: post #53
doitLP wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave does something similar. It just looks like a generic version of chrome

It didn't always have a generic Chrome UA, if you go here[0] it had 'Brave' somewhere in the string, which you could fix by turning on fingerprinting prevention. Glad they fixed that. I don't want people to know I use Brave, although I'm sure there's ways to detect Brave with JS. [0] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=what+is+my+useragent&ia=answer

You can do `await navigator.brave.isBrave()` to detect Brave.

[1] https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/24478

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by DavideNL »

nvrspyx wrote: post #65
DavideNL wrote: post #51

So will uBlock Origin be "crippled" in this browser, like in Chrome/Chromium and Safari?

Does uBlock Origin even exist for Safari? If not, then I imagine it won't exist for this browser either, since it's just a wrapper around a macOS-provided, Safari-/WebKit-based webview.

It does exist in Orion, which is also WebKit...: https://browser.kagi.com/

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by webmobdev »

smoldesu wrote: post #62
chrisjc wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "The Browser" episode from the Acquired podcast might shed some light on the reasons why. If one of the key figures in the development of Mozilla and JavaScript didn't choose it for his own new browser, why would anyone else? :( The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/the-browser-with-brendan-ei...

It's worth noting that Brendan Eich is far from the most impartial party you could hear criticize Firefox. He used to be the CEO, and resigned after Mozilla employees discovered his political contributions.

Sure, one could argue that. But note that even Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner, the co-founder of Opera (who even built their own independent browser engine), also chose Chromium to build the new Vivaldi browser. Everyone avoids Firefox codebase because it is a mess (on purpose, so that others can't build a competing browser with it). As for Brendan Eich, I honestly believe that someone wanted him removed to weaken Firefox's growth and development, and they successfully used "cancel culture" to do so. After all, what does one's political beliefs have to do with one's technical and management skills (especially when they are able to compartmentalise and separate it from their professional life)?

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by Tepix »

Bellyache5 wrote: post #45
Tepix wrote: post #42

Everytime you use an app instead of a web app you have to trust the author of the app not to permanently track you. Use web apps wherevery you can and delete the cookies and web storage whenever it makes sense.

How does that work for a web browser?

Luckily we have open source web browsers. Most apps aren't.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by Tepix »

core-utility wrote: post #47
Tepix wrote: post #42

Everytime you use an app instead of a web app you have to trust the author of the app not to permanently track you. Use web apps wherevery you can and delete the cookies and web storage whenever it makes sense.

But this is a browser....

It's yet another app at the same time.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by HelloMcFly »

loceng wrote: post #39
HelloMcFly wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It almost beggars belief to have to say that of course the vaccine testing is on efficacy of infection prevention, not transmissibility. But wouldn't you know it? The less likely you are to get infected and the faster your body clears the virus, the less the virus is or can be transmitted. Yes, peak viral load for infections that do "breakthrough" may be the same as unvaccinated. That's not a smoking gun. There is a…

You admit to there being coordinated efforts against labor and the working class - so how do you deal with the cognitive dissonance with 1) the history that the pharmaceutical industry continuously being a very bad actor with the reward of billions in profit, 2) that pharma industry in the U.S. (for example) accounts for something like 80% of the advertising revenue on all mainstream-legacy media channels (capturing…

There is zero cognitive dissonance for me. I freely admit to everything you stipulated above in paragraph 1. But none of those statements logically flows to your conclusion, despite how strongly you seem to think they do. Such statements of fact do not implicitly or explicitly compromise the quality of the science and the weight of the evidence for vaccine efficacy, especially when those results are independently verified using multi-source methods.

> The rest of what you shared seems to be relatively shallow narratives you've been trained/programmed to believe for you to then parrot.

What more does this merit than an eye roll? You know nothing about me, but you're telling me all I need to know about you. It's frankly distressing, but such are the times.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by loceng »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #96
loceng wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You admit to there being coordinated efforts against labor and the working class - so how do you deal with the cognitive dissonance with 1) the history that the pharmaceutical industry continuously being a very bad actor with the reward of billions in profit, 2) that pharma industry in the U.S. (for example) accounts for something like 80% of the advertising revenue on all mainstream-legacy media channels (capturing…

There is zero cognitive dissonance for me. I freely admit to everything you stipulated above in paragraph 1. But none of those statements logically flows to your conclusion, despite how strongly you seem to think they do. Such statements of fact do not implicitly or explicitly compromise the quality of the science and the weight of the evidence for vaccine efficacy, especially when those results are independently ver…

> There is zero cognitive dissonance for me. I freely admit to everything you stipulated above in paragraph 1. But none of those statements logically flows to your conclusion, despite how strongly you seem to think they do. Such statements of fact do not implicitly or explicitly compromise the quality of the science and the weight of the evidence for vaccine efficacy, especially when those results are independently verified using multi-source methods.

You didn't actually support any of your statements or specifically state what's wrong with my logic, you're just saying them as matter of fact - but such are the times.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Post by BrendanEich »

smoldesu wrote: post #62
chrisjc wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "The Browser" episode from the Acquired podcast might shed some light on the reasons why. If one of the key figures in the development of Mozilla and JavaScript didn't choose it for his own new browser, why would anyone else? :( The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/the-browser-with-brendan-ei...

It's worth noting that Brendan Eich is far from the most impartial party you could hear criticize Firefox. He used to be the CEO, and resigned after Mozilla employees discovered his political contributions.

You're wrong, as usual: The L.A. Times reported my Prop 8 support in 2012, Mozilla employees found out then, yet I did not resign then or for two years.

It seems you are also implying I'm lying about why Brave switched from Gecko to Chromium because of your animus toward me over something completely unrelated in the past. That says nothing at all about me or Brave, and too much (none good, IMO) about you.

You're one of three or four handles, along with rare green ones, that just can't stop talking (detraction, lying) about me, even when you're wrong and off target by any sane standard. Just recently, HN commenters noted how upside down threads involving my name tend to become, because of you and a very few others. I suggest it's time to stop.

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