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DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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I used to be a fan of DuckDuckGo. I mained it as my search engine for a long while because it was better for privacy, and it gave me my choice. Then, they decided that they were the arbiters of truth, and they'd start censoring "Russian disinformation campaigns." Because apparently that's important to them. The fact that they also get most of their results from Bing also subtracts points. I also eventually realized t…

(I'm the CEO & Founder of DuckDuckGo.) It is simply not true that we have censored anything or made ourselves "the arbiters of truth." I realized I previously explained how our news rankings work very poorly on Twitter but I subsequently put out a clarification tweet[1] and then we made this help page with a much clearer (and detailed) explanation of how our news rankings work: https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-…

What you have basically done here is say "we only downrank spam" (this is fine), and then said "state-sponsored news is inherently spam" (this is not).

You are using a definition of "spam" that is not commonly held or understood by those who would be your users. Whether or not this is for a noble reason, this renders it a dark pattern. This is not only a violation of the principle of least astonishment, your explanation comes off as deceptive. You are making a value judgment on truth and working that into the product while claiming you are not making a value judgment.

Relevance and truth are two different things. It is not your job to be making calls on the second one, and I find your willful conflation of these concepts, and attempts to deflect from the fact that you have done so to be a bit gross.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Too bad they don't show in the User Agent:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko)

Would love to show the amount of visitors in Simple Analytics dashboards. [1]

Does anybody know a way to detect the DuckDuckGo browser?

[1] https://www.simpleanalyics.com

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Too bad they don't show in the User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Would love to show the amount of visitors in Simple Analytics dashboards. [1] Does anybody know a way to detect the DuckDuckGo browser? [1] https://www.simpleanalyics.com

They seem to set something on `window.navigator._duckduckgoloader_`

If you run `JSON.stringify(window.navigator)`, it only shows the _duckduckgoloader_ variable. Anybody knows why JSON.stringify behaves like that?

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Everytime you use an app instead of a web app you have to trust the author of the app not to permanently track you. Use web apps wherevery you can and delete the cookies and web storage whenever it makes sense.

How does that work for a web browser?

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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> All the app code – tab and bookmark management, our new tab page, our password manager, etc. – is written by our own engineers. For rendering, it uses a public macOS API, making it super compatible with Mac devices. Is this a new way of saying that they use Webkit?

I wonder why they went with WebKit? It is nice to see another WebKit browser and not just a Blink/Chromium spinoff. Still it is a surprising choice, even if there's really only WebKit and Blink available for wannabe browser makers.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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For those who know a lot more than I do, how does this compare to Brave?

It's a browser with a bunch of privacy features, just like Brave but with a more opinionated design and subtle differences. It caters to people who don't want to configure a thousand things before they use their browser, which is the only unique selling point of this that I'm aware of.

> Webkit-based browser [...]just like Brave

Brave for Mac is not Webkit-based. It is Blink and V8.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a browser with a bunch of privacy features, just like Brave but with a more opinionated design and subtle differences. It caters to people who don't want to configure a thousand things before they use their browser, which is the only unique selling point of this that I'm aware of.

> Webkit-based browser [...]just like Brave Brave for Mac is not Webkit-based. It is Blink and V8.

Thanks for pointing that out. I was mis-reading some of the comments here saying the DDG browser in question is Webkit (because it's a MacOS browser only, for now). So is it based off Chromium as the base then?

(I know Brave is Chromium based)

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac beta now open to the public

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Too bad they don't show in the User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Would love to show the amount of visitors in Simple Analytics dashboards. [1] Does anybody know a way to detect the DuckDuckGo browser? [1] https://www.simpleanalyics.com

Brave does something similar. It just looks like a generic version of chrome
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