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AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
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Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#122It's like we've learned nothing from the techno-optimist claim that work automation will give workers more free time to pursue their own desires. In theory, it might be able to at some point. However, in reality, the claim ignores the power structures that the automation/AI/tech doesn't dissolve, but only reinforces. Some people want to lord over other people, AI isn't going to make that go away without changing the…
And some people want and need leaders. It's not a matter of "letting it happen", it's a ore function of humanity. And in the absence of formal hierarchy you get informal hierarchy which is much worse and more tyrannical.
I said nothing about needing or not needing leaders. Most leaders in someone's life did not get the roles democratically. Existing power structures are why those in charge are not chosen in a democratic manner, and AI won't replace management in its current form for similar reasons.
Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
k. - Human worker.
reminds me of that joke Zizek likes to make about dating. two lovers meet up at ones house for Netflix and chill, she takes out her vibrator and he takes his fleshlight. they put them together to let them do what sexual machines do, so now their obligation is fulfilled and they can enjoy conversation instead.
That's a sad commentary on relationships.
Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How, specifically, will AI be better at that than humans? AI cannot even reliably autocorrect this comment as I’m typing it. How is it going to convince Jack to switch his shift and come in to cover open on Sunday because Jill’s sister was in a car accident and Jill is watching her niece? How’s AI going to do that better than a fellow human? This is a solved problem by using surge pricing. It's a widespread practic…
> This is a solved problem by using surge pricing. It's a widespread practice with contractors today. This solves the problem for situations where you have a large pool of workers with elastic hours for a job which requires effectively zero training... which is basically Uber, food delivery, and not much else. Even something as entry-level as a Starbucks barista you can't just pull a random person off the street and…
I think so. Once upon a time, I worked at Best Buy for $10/hr. It wasn’t complicated work, but did require a few days of training.
There’s no way I’d have volunteered to go in on my day off at $10/hr, if I was already in the middle of something else. But for $15/hr or $20/hr, I’d be way more amenable than some human asking nicely without any bonus pay.
For doctors or those who already work many hours for high pay, surge pricing doesn’t seem like a great solution though.
Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#125just another tale from vienna woods, lmao
Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#126Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#127The current definition of AI (whose "output" actually IS deterministic) does more harm than benefit as it evokes expectations which can't be met. Automated text translation in real time? Certainly impressive but nowhere intelligent in the human sense of intelligence or smartness.
I am confident that no "AI" will ever replace humans in any meaningful way unless we come up with an entirely new computing principle. Maybe quantum computers will bring us there, I honestly don't know.
Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#128I think this article fundamentally misunderstands the core function of middle management. You can boil it down to 2 key tasks (on the front lines of a very large organization). a) Interpreting: either top->down by explaining and enforcing corporate policy on hourly workers or bottom->up by ensuring workers enter data to be reported on correctly b) "Encouraging": an employee calls in sick, again. Neither firing them o…
In what dystopian country do you live where you don't automatically get the day off when calling in sick?
Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#129I think this article fundamentally misunderstands the core function of middle management. You can boil it down to 2 key tasks (on the front lines of a very large organization). a) Interpreting: either top->down by explaining and enforcing corporate policy on hourly workers or bottom->up by ensuring workers enter data to be reported on correctly b) "Encouraging": an employee calls in sick, again. Neither firing them o…
>Neither of these are low hanging fruit for automation
The Uber app already does both of these things. Encouragement is done via gamification and adjusting pricing and the app itself collects all the data it needs and explains everything the driver needs to know.
Re: AI will replace middle management before robots replace hourly workers
#130This article seems to be written by AI for sure.