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Re: Starlink Aviation

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Flights are/were a universally understood, no-questions-asked excuse for someone to be offline. That's the nice thing about them.

If the only reason you're allowed to be offline is because you're on a flight, i think there's much bigger problems that need sorting.

And just say the wifi was down if you don't want to connect; it seems to be down half the time I want to use it anyway.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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To be fair you can always choose to disconnect for a period of time. I understand if your job expects you to be online when possible but if you have difficulty disconnecting without an external pressure to be online you could consider talking to a therapist to help you manage your reliance, especially if it's bothering you significantly.

Flights are/were a universally understood, no-questions-asked excuse for someone to be offline. That's the nice thing about them.

If flying is one of the few times where you are allowed to be offline, it sounds like a rather 'meh work environment.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Slightly off-topic. I hate that internet is becoming more common on flights. One of my favorite things about flying is that it's a good chunk of time where you disconnect and don't worry about emails or messages. Just sit back and watch a movie or listen to music. Or catch up on sleep.

A few years ago, I didn't know how to feel about someone Internet streaming a medical podcast from their laptop speakers for hours on a long flight. Impressed at the connectivity, but annoyed.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Edit: a fatal assumption that it's the airlines providing the service underpins my original post below, whereas instead it's the providers charging passengers directly. That's an entirely different model from below, so disregard my original comment aside maybe my last line. Preserving the comment for context though. --- At 25,000/mo, assuming a jet makes 60 trans-con segments in the US per month and a price of $20 pe…

And, knowing Musk, a way to play loose with the books. I can imagine a bunch of these reservations "financially delivered" to prop up SpaceX's numbers, which aren't looking hugely healthy.

In which world is SpaceX not healthy? I mean, _seriously_. Investors are trampling over each other for the opportunity to get into their private stock buybacks. They've had a record number of launches this year and Starlink is coming out of "unproven" territory and into "let's sell this" territory. Plus they just successfully tested inter-satellite links.

You best anchor yourself to the ground... lest you drift away.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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I have the same flight stats and I have only had to ask for a refund once because it straight up didn’t work for most of the flight. Many airlines have very usable internet now, some even for free (jetBlue).

I fly jetBlue a fair amount and the free Wi-Fi is a joke

It must have gone downhill since my last flight with them. I vividly remember getting something like 18 Mbps in a speed test and was shocked that they were giving it away.

This article from 2017 confirms that it was 15 Mbps at one time: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-travel-briefcase-airl...

It looks like they have since reduced the free tier to less than 1 Mbps and added a paid option that allows you to stream video.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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I don’t agree because bandwidth isn’t the only part of nominal operations in a war zone. You’re also painting a bright red target on your back for the highly sophisticated state actors (On the level that they might bribe or threaten employees, try to infiltrate the company, etc.) If I were SpaceX I wouldn’t want any part of it.

Those are all things they should already be guarding against though for the most part and definitely not a cost incurred per unit. If they're not already doing tons of work to secure against malicious employees they're a joke of an ISP to begin with.

Security isn't binary. There's a difference between normal commercial-grade security, and being actively engaged in warfare against an adversary with serious cyber and space warfare capabilities.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Slightly off-topic. I hate that internet is becoming more common on flights. One of my favorite things about flying is that it's a good chunk of time where you disconnect and don't worry about emails or messages. Just sit back and watch a movie or listen to music. Or catch up on sleep.

A few years ago, I didn't know how to feel about someone Internet streaming a medical podcast from their laptop speakers for hours on a long flight. Impressed at the connectivity, but annoyed.

That's a strong "I'm sorry but do you have headphones? Respectfully I don't want to listen to this". Alternatively I bring earplugs to put in under my over-the-ear headphones, haha.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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> Also notable that SpaceX keeps finding these cool (revenue generating) use cases to further cheapen the cost of sending things up to space. Like sending Ukraine "free" base stations and charging them $4,500 a month for service.

The base stations were never free - they were subsidized by various sources. But that $4,500 a month is insanely cheap and an absolutely incredible value for Ukraine. The media loves to whip up a frenzy over Musk, but Ukrainian commanders on the front have said Starlink is the single biggest advantage they have, their efficacy would drop by more than half without it, and even, they’d rather have more Starlink than mo…

"The media loves to whip up a frenzy over Musk"

No, Musk does that himself by saying and doing a lot of very stupid things and also lying a lot.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Just in: Musk offers to buy City of Montreal

2 months before deciding to reneg due to too many fake people in Montreal. He accuses the City of Montreal of hiding the true number of thugs and criminals.

As dumb as that whole saga is, I find it amusing that people think Twitter is actually honest in their filings about the amount of fake/bot accounts. Tech companies inflating account numbers is a tale as old as the internet itself.

Re: Starlink Aviation

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Absolutely. I mean, your post is glib to the point of reductiveness, but Musk has habitually lied about Tesla, SpaceX, The Boring Company, the Hyperloop, Neural Link and just about every venture he's been in. It's not hard to find a half dozen lies about each of those companies, to say nothing of his social media presence. I'd happily float an innovator an occasional overreach. But it's dozens and dozens of times now…

"your post is glib to the point of reductiveness"

How so? He lies constantly about many things. He is essentially a con artist at this point.

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