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Re: Starlink Aviation

#222

https://support.starlink.com/topic?category=57

to give an idea of the lower bound size of aircraft this is possible on: Which aircraft types are supported for Starlink Aviation? Supplemental type certificate (STCs) are in development for the following aircraft: ERJ-135, ERJ-145, G650, G550, Falcon 2000, G450, Challenger 300, Challenger 350, Global Express, Global 5000, Global 6000, and Global 7500. The Starlink engineering team will update this list as developmen…

If your aircraft is experimental rated you should be able to still install it without a STC I believe.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#223
> With latency as low as 20 ms, passengers can engage in activities previously not functional in flight, including video calls,

I knew this was coming, but I am still not ready for it. Can you imagine being on a 5+ hour flight next to someone on a call the entire time? You know there will be people who will take their entire work day from the plane.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#224

> No long term contracts What? lol Listen, if I'm paying you a 1 time fee of $150K you better be contractually obligated to provide my expensive ass internet each and every month I want it.

Some charter aircraft may sit on the ground for some time so having flexibility to start and stop the service seems useful.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#226
post #170

It would be nice if Starlink could honour their existing obligations as a priority first. I have reserved Starlink here in Canada nearly two years ago and received an email advising it's now been pushed to summer 2023. That's three years of waiting. I was also emailed last year advising the monthly cost has increased and so has the dish itself. Shouldn't providing down payment legally guarantee to buy a service at or…

I understand the frustration, but I don't think that ignoring aviation would help Starlink serve you faster. I know, anytime a company launches something new while you're waiting for something else, it feels like they're prioritizing that over you. That's often not really how things work. Going with aviation could give them cash flow to be able to move faster while not really using up capacity in your area. Personall…

TL;DR?

Re: Starlink Aviation

#227
post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this extortion? I thought StarLink is a business, not a charity. As I understand it, Musk is asking for someone to pay for the Ukraine service… although I admit I may not know the whole story.

Starlink Premium service is $500/month but SpaceX is asking $4,500/month in Ukraine. There may be some justification for this but it looks like a bait-and-switch.

And the service of the post you're responding to is $15,000-$24,000/month.

Given that the service operating in areas where there are no or limited groundstations available, this is actually more equivalent to the maritime service, which runs at $5,000/month.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#229
post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, who else is giving it for free?

Telecoms sans frontiers is operating within Ukraine and neighboring countries providing Internet access and telephone services to civilians. SpaceX shouldn’t have been allowed to insert themselves in the conflict. They should use existing structures if they want to provide humanitarian telecom and if they wanted to provide their offerings to the military they should go through normal channels. Just throwing their off…

> SpaceX shouldn’t have been allowed to insert themselves in the conflict.

Except Starlink has become critical for the military in Ukraine. It's used extensively to live stream drone footage from the frontlines to command locations over things like google hangouts. There's videos of this which is why we know. It also works without any infrastructure when it's all been destroyed has has been critical in getting cell service up and running quickly in destroyed areas.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#230
post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What models are you referring to? Having driven a loaded Taycan, which I think is probably most often cited as being superior, I’d take even a basic Tesla over it any day. AFAICT, none of the competitors have the full system UX dialed in like Tesla.

BMW ix, Ford Mach e, Ford lightning, Mercedes EQS, Hyundai Kona, VW id4, Rivian r1t. Both established brands and new players are coming after the market hard. It's not hard to imagine that Tesla will have serious competition basically now.

I'm quite happy with my Kia Niro EV. A big part of the reason I chose it was that it's not a Muskmobile.
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