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Re: Starlink Aviation

#62
It would be nice if Starlink could honour their existing obligations as a priority first. I have reserved Starlink here in Canada nearly two years ago and received an email advising it's now been pushed to summer 2023. That's three years of waiting. I was also emailed last year advising the monthly cost has increased and so has the dish itself. Shouldn't providing down payment legally guarantee to buy a service at original said price? I'm already frustrated and not even a customer yet....

Re: Starlink Aviation

#63

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> a problem left to etiquette I fly regularly, and it will absolutely become a problem on day 1.

This seems so backwards to me, why would you want other people to behave the way you want them to when you can just put in earplugs, noise cancelling headphones, have self control and not get annoyed, etc etc. It seems crazy to me that people consider something so minor to be uncouth or whatever. I think in general the onus to take care of something should be on the person getting annoyed and only until you've exhaus…

Talking about economy class flights - you aren't paying enough to avoid what is often extremely inconsiderate behaviour, you're stuck very close together, there's literally zero prospect of getting off it early if any bad behaviour occurs, and you often can't even change seats if there's bad behaviour.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#64

Not sure who this is aimed at, the existing inflight wifi solutions powered by two satellites (viasat) are sufficient for tasks that don't require low latency.

a flying geostationary VSAT terminal in some set of geographically restricted ku and ka-band spot beams for regional broadband connectivity are a very different thing than true global coverage.

this is trying to compete with the very high $ per MB and slow speed products that already exist from iridium and inmarsat.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#65
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Pretty sure they meant how much viasat charges.

Yeah, you could be right. And from a very quick look, Viasat doesn't just have their prices right on the front page.

They have a pricing table in their brochure: https://viasat.widen.net/s/clgfbt6sdz/1487977_business_aviat...

Re: Starlink Aviation

#66
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Low latency for Video Calls? Sure, great on private charter jets where it’s you or a couple of people who know each other. Also, generally in favour of the march of technology, so I love this. Do Not Ever want on a flight where I’m sitting beside some random ass stranger who will chat or video chat to whoever at the top of their voice while I’m trying to relax.

I think technology itself is enabler here. Airlines have to figure how to price the convenience of video calls vs privacy/solitude/disturbances to the co-passengers. i think having dedicated video call booths priced per 5 min chunks can address the issue.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#67

It would be nice if Starlink could honour their existing obligations as a priority first. I have reserved Starlink here in Canada nearly two years ago and received an email advising it's now been pushed to summer 2023. That's three years of waiting. I was also emailed last year advising the monthly cost has increased and so has the dish itself. Shouldn't providing down payment legally guarantee to buy a service at or…

Perhaps it is not a client hardware issue, but a lack of coverage at your latitude.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#68
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Not sure who this is aimed at, the existing inflight wifi solutions powered by two satellites (viasat) are sufficient for tasks that don't require low latency.

Airlines that want to let people watch Netflix.

I wonder why netflix doesn't just put a server on the plane for that usecase. Hard drives are cheap.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#69

Looks like a very competitive product, assuming pricing is reasonable. It's interesting that they are rolling in the warranty cost with the monthly subscription. First time I've seen that. It will be great for aircraft owners looking to have a full featured internet experience in flight. Though the downside is that it will likely have priority when roaming into any cell, thus degrading service for ordinary ground bas…

Most of the time a plane is over farm fields or water. Highest demand for normal starlink is in cities. Not gonna be flying over NYC w this. Kind of a good fit I would think in terms of utilization.

Why would the highest demand for Starlink be in cities?

Who in their right mind would pay for Starlink over fiber? The same cost, but a lot better connection lol.

Re: Starlink Aviation

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> a problem left to etiquette I fly regularly, and it will absolutely become a problem on day 1.

This seems so backwards to me, why would you want other people to behave the way you want them to when you can just put in earplugs, noise cancelling headphones, have self control and not get annoyed, etc etc. It seems crazy to me that people consider something so minor to be uncouth or whatever. I think in general the onus to take care of something should be on the person getting annoyed and only until you've exhaus…

While I generally agree with a live and let live attitude, someone who would listen to music out loud, or have a phone call in anything other than the most hushed tones in an airplane are inconsiderate sociopaths
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