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Fortunately you've also posted quite a few good comments, so this should be easy to fix.
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No, not at all. But the entirety of CCC isn't "normal", C3 isn't just some command line Oktoberfest. CCC identifies a lot with greater-good responsibility and that's not really compatible with the position of "I'll pretend the pandemic does not exist unless authorities force my hand" that a commercial event organizer would take.
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No, it is not normal. CCC is being proactive in that they believe that there is a chance of having the same problems as in the last congress, and they want to avoid this, because volunteers are more hesitant to get involved in a risky situation compared to employees.
It is quite common still to go virtual e.g. in the academic community and in any place where there are no commercial consideration or loss of money associated. (Just had the discussion today to move virtual because everyone else does as well)
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I was at a conference with around 1000 attendees in Germany this summer. The organizers put out a lot of recommendations for visitors regarding Covid (wear masks, be vaccinated, test yourself before and after the event, etc.), but none could be enforced on site since there was no legal basis for it. The result was that precautions were largely ignored by everyone at the event. The aftermath was that the entira orga t…
the whole point is that covid is no big deal. It's at best a minor flu at this point. People "contracting Covid" are irrelevant
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How about the hospitals opting out of handling emergency cases? https://twitter.com/dokhollidays/status/1582013255106498560
I think the past few years have shown that an unsubstantiated twitter thread is worthy of much credence - especially in light of a significant lack of traditional reporting on the topic.
The traditional reporting sucks. This year there was a strike in hospitals in NRW and the traditional media mostly reported about it after it finished after 77 days.
I agree, a tweet on its own doesn't prove much. But I've been following some accounts that work in hospitals for a while now and I noticed a change in tone.
I would be extra careful right now not to get yourself into an emergency situation. The problem is you only notice how bad the situation is if you work there or you need some services.
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I didn't notice anything worse during 2019 than during previous years. There were fewer calls to sanitation, if anything, or perhaps the calls didn't stand out to me anymore. Either way, while you're probably right that the earliest cases of covid were probably already there, it's not as though "the congress flu" (never heard anyone call it 'plague', either) was because of covid, or because of covid even just that ye…
I vaguely remember reading about the first handful of reported infections here on HN at the very end of 2019, somewhere around NYE. It was a very strange feeling to start the year with. It might have been this article, the earliest (relevant) mention of pneumonia cases I could find: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21926713
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How about the hospitals opting out of handling emergency cases? https://twitter.com/dokhollidays/status/1582013255106498560
I think the past few years have shown that an unsubstantiated twitter thread is worthy of much credence - especially in light of a significant lack of traditional reporting on the topic.
Fact is that Germany has seen a jump in people being infected, hospitalized, and generally being on sick leave, which triggers and triggered already a number of consequences from that. This includes operations being shifted around, and other (localized) health system overloads due to staff shortages. "Traditional media" actually covered the more official complaints coming from that direction.
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the whole point is that covid is no big deal. It's at best a minor flu at this point. People "contracting Covid" are irrelevant
While I do think CCC made the wrong call here, probably ending Congress for good, let's just assume that the kind of people who attend Congress may not be the most healthy of the bunch to begin with.
Weird decision. I am in Germany and no one cares about Covid anymore. I don't think we will have super strict covid measures this winter.
I'm German too and at least here in Munich you still have to wear masks in lots of settings. Public transport, doctors office, in my work office etc. And the discussion around Oktoberfest was quite often in the media. I'm not sure what you mean by 'no one cares about COVID anymore'.
I finally got covid last month. It wasn't fun, but I had worse colds. I think many people experienced the same thing, and so covid morphed from a looming, unknown horror to a known quantity.
Is it normal in Germany to still be cancelling large events due to Covid? That certainly isn't the case in the UK and hasn't been for some time.
The narrative that's coming out of the CDC had been shifting over the last week - get ready for Omicron V2, and Governor Pritzker and others are bringing back mask mandates. It's clear that the government knows stuff we are not ready for. Europe is ahead, as usual, with new Covid variants, so the CCC is adequately prudent.