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I had an iPad for a long while way back. I bought the Retina one initially. It was nice for what it was. I just can’t get excited about anything iOS as unless you have REALLY bought into the “ecosystem” it’s a clusterfuck. - File management is still a sick joke. - unless they’ve really changed something that I’m unaware of (which I’ll admit is entirely possible) with “iPadOS” vs regular iOS, multitasking is still a p…

> The ridiculous sandboxing between programs that’s supposedly a security feature but just makes for an insufferably inconsistent UI and terrible management of data between programs … I guess that goes with my file management complaint. I don’t know, I do think that in theory that strong of a sandboxing is superior and would actually like a better implementation of that on even something like linux. Most of my progra…

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Thats kind of a poor argument that just self fulfils itself. If we mask things like the filesystem and the actual shell, then of course no one will really need to use it. If we unmask these things, maybe paradigms will shift and they will themselves use these things. IMO so few people know how to code because we have been abstracting it for years, not because its tough to do or anything like that. Plenty of things pe…

>Hard to get that exposure when a company decides it won't be possible for you, The company decided it was not possible using a specific product. You decided to use a product where it was not possible.

If you are not the most technologically inclined person, its really the company's marketing that is choosing the product rather than you. Its true with any product you lack relevant knowledge in, marketing becomes the dominant factor of choice beyond tooling that you don't fully yet understand. I think what is especially frustrating in this case, is that these capabilities are already there built into the device, they are just not exposed unless you jailbreak the device.

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Then you emulate iOS on it to debug iOS Safari? Is it fast enough?

Yea, it works well and is plenty fast on a LAN (remote may be laggy). Some things you can't test using emulators, namely App Store stuff I believe, and you need to screw with the resolution/scaling so you can read the text. I threw a GitHub runner on mine so I can do iOS builds from it.

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As a commment on the /r/iPad subreddit said, Apple accidentally made the most future-proof devices with the 2018 iPad Pros. There is not a single app that makes full use of the increased CPU power of these new iPads. I own a 2018 11" iPP, and it has been a game-changer in the way I have studied. After buying it, I haven't printed a single sheet of paper for note-taking. It's also a much better Netflix device than my…

I assume multicore video encoding makes full use of the CPU? It seems kind of crazy to say there's nothing that makes full use of the CPU.

Do people ever seriously edit video on the iPad?

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Do creative types use Ipad Pros? The IPadOS file system is less than optimal. Adobe apps are the real thing and missing features. My company has a full video team, and photo team. No one has asked for an IPad Pro. They do have proXDR screens and some beefy macs. Only execs have them for a high end zoom boxes especially if they have a windows laptop that have poor mics and cameras. Center stage feature is really nice.

Are there any creatives that don’t work in industry? Video teams that use Mac Pros and Pro Display XDR wouldn’t even be able to use a MacBook Pro does that mean the MacBook Pro can’t be used by creatives? So yes, creatives use the iPads. It is the main driver for more performance on an ipad. Drawing, audio performance, photo editing, hell, they are great second displays for MacBooks.

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Anything in the gSuite is terrible on iPadOS. Excel is also fairly crippled. I can’t see how it’s usable at all. Even just for emailing, GMail at least is a terrible application on iPad. For examples, cannot format anything, or view one email while writing another (that isn’t a reply). I primarily use mine for * Note taking * Browsing/showing PDFs in a construction engineering setting. Nothing is faster or as flexibl…

I disagree, I think there are 4 good GSuite apps on iPadOS: GMail, Meet, Calendar, and Drive. With the magic floaty keyboard, even long emails feel fine on iPad. Unfortunately, Docs, Slides & Sheets are pretty terrible, and fall far short of the desktop experience. For those apps, a Chromebook would be a much better choice. If only they made Chromebooks with trackpads as good as Apple's laptops, or even as good as th…

I wouldn’t say gmail is good if the compose button floats on top of my inbox, a new message opens up in a modal and covers anything you’re trying to read/refer to. No format buttons.

Sheets is terrible. Cannot use the magic keyboard to shift your active cell (ie click a cell, type = and use arrow keys to find the cell you want to reference.. it just quits the cell).

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Anything in the gSuite is terrible on iPadOS. Excel is also fairly crippled. I can’t see how it’s usable at all. Even just for emailing, GMail at least is a terrible application on iPad. For examples, cannot format anything, or view one email while writing another (that isn’t a reply). I primarily use mine for * Note taking * Browsing/showing PDFs in a construction engineering setting. Nothing is faster or as flexibl…

I gsuite good anywhere ? It's not good in the browser on desktop/laptop devices, certainly. I have noticed they cut tons of features from the iOS versions and keep you from using the site if they're installed (and maybe even if they're not? That's got to be how I ended up with them installed, I wouldn't have done it by choice), which is super annoying and makes no sense since I'm sure it's all the same webtech crap a…

My entire company (800+) runs on gsuite for better or worse. At least in browser on desktop its functional.

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I assume multicore video encoding makes full use of the CPU? It seems kind of crazy to say there's nothing that makes full use of the CPU.

Do people ever seriously edit video on the iPad?

Oh my goodness, absolutely.

You're not going to edit a feature film on it, but for anything that's just filming a few minutes of different things and editing then together and posting/sending it wherever, it's a godsend.

Whether you're a professional actor taping a last-minute audition from your hotel room, a sales manager putting together an instructional video on site, or a high schooler putting together a classroom project.

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Well, transferring files between an iPhone and a Windows PC is still far more of a pain than it should be. Still can't just treat the phone as a drive and put files on there. (edit: or trivially share a folder on the LAN over wifi, without even needing the USB cable, if you're considering the iOS device a 'real computer')

You can’t connect a laptop to another laptop and treat it like a drive. Why expect anything different from a phone that’s really a computer?

If it was a real computer with a 'real OS', I'd be able to easily set up network shares and transfer files over wifi, without even plugging a cable in.

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Well, transferring files between an iPhone and a Windows PC is still far more of a pain than it should be. Still can't just treat the phone as a drive and put files on there. (edit: or trivially share a folder on the LAN over wifi, without even needing the USB cable, if you're considering the iOS device a 'real computer')

Seems pretty simple with iCloud for Windows.

So transferring a file between 2 local devices should require sending it to a cloud server and back?
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