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Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

Teacher's core competency is teaching. They study it for years, practice it for years, in a system tuned over time. You have never done it before. You really think you can do better?

Parents actually teach their children a lot before they potentially head out for more formal educating, so even if we assume parents don't have teaching experience from their professions, I don't think it is very accurate to suggest they haven't taught anything.

I do question that having a single teacher for 20+ students teaching all subjects for the entire school year is obviously going to work better than motivated homeschooling parent(s). While teachers do have formal education on the matter, it also includes how to manage many children in a classroom setting and how to interface with schools and their processes. The part of the education pertaining to the subjects teachers teach is actually pretty incomplete. To teach elementary students, you have a major, but still teach them subjects that you might only have an average understanding of (like a history major teaching a music class).

Given all that, it doesn't seem hard to believe that parents could do better for a single child than pre-school and elementary school teachers.

As a child gets older their needs evolve such that no one person has everything required to best support that child. That is an advantage of schools (usually high school), but could also be solved with tutoring and other programs available to homeschoolers.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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let me google taht for you? https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/im-former-teac... https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/feqtuo/te... Parents send their kids to school to get an education, not be pushed propaganda.

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Simply because some group advocates something, doesnt mean its not true. Implying this is a non-argument.

Maybe youre part of the problem?

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

Teacher's core competency is teaching. They study it for years, practice it for years, in a system tuned over time. You have never done it before. You really think you can do better?

>Teacher's core competency is teaching.

Teachers are babysitters first and foremost.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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I will give you one statistic to get your head going. I studied theoretical math (long time ago, not in the US). At the university I attended, there were 17 applicants for each admission. My class was 125 people of which about 30 were men and almost a hundred were women. During first 3 semesters, the class went from 125 to 70 at the end of the first semester, 35 at the end of the second and 20 at the end of third. Ou…

i've always said this but women have much better emotional regulation compared to men at the same age, they can make themselves do things that are boring but are valuable for their future in the long term. Men, i've observed are either too into something (at the expense of everything else) or can't care at all.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Indeed. They are answering the question "Do teachers give girls higher marks than boys" , and the answer is Yes, girls do get better grades than boys for the same work. We do not get a final answer to why teachers are giving girls higher marks than boys.

The majority of teachers are female and while I'm not going to claim it's misandry per se, it's likely that they identify more with the girls and thus are biased.

Sounds like they had a control for this, though, because they claim to have investigated whether the teacher was male or female. Only differences seemed to be class size and whether the school was technical/academic or vocational.

My pet theory would be boys tend to have worse handwriting. So it could be that the worse handwriting is more frequently misinterpreted or simply marked as wrong by teachers.

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I wish we could. We have the possibility, but i have no idea where to start teaching school material. And of course I'm terrified of the social aspect.

You can enroll your children in any extracurricular activity, such as sports and arts and it will cover the social aspect.

Not 100% confident in this. In a classroom you all face the same challenges (this bad teacher, the test being hard etc.) so it develops comradery, each other helps. Yeah, there is also bad stuff, but it's an experience that I don't know if sports alone can deliver (the amount of time you spend together in school is way higher).

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I wish we could. We have the possibility, but i have no idea where to start teaching school material. And of course I'm terrified of the social aspect.

Aren't there essentially School-Material-As-A-Service companies that provide all the stuff to you? I cannot imagine that every homeschooling parent starts building their own study plans and comes up with their own teaching concepts etc. Regarding the social aspect, do you mean your children not getting enough social interaction with other children of the same age, or how home schooling is viewed socially?

Good to know, thank you, worth exploring!

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"If you don't send your kids to school, they won't fit in with society." "Correct."

To put it in a less pithy way... bullying is part of life, too. You certainly want to prevent what bullying you can in schools and give your children the tools to cope with it. But being home schooled means you (likely) never deal with it in the first place; and it's likely to be all the more damaging when you try to settle into an adult life.

if bullying in school is necessary for kids to learn how to cope with adult life then most children are going to fail, because most of them will not experience any bullying. so how does that help?

i must therefore disagree with that premise. i was bullied (thankfully just mildly) in school, and i learned nothing from it that would have been useful later.

what we need to kids to learn is that bullying is not part of life and should not be tolerated anywhere, but should be stopped whereever possible. if we want to help children then not by letting them learn how to cope with being bullied, but teaching all children how to not be a bully, and how to recognize when others are being bullied, and how to help both the one being bullied, as well as the bully, who may well act out because they are themselves coming from a difficult situation eg at home.

doing that in a school requires active involvement from teachers and parents. absent that, going to school doesn't provide any benefit on that issue.

Re: Why do teachers give girls higher marks than boys? Researchers have the answer

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Everyday I think more and more about homeschooling my son and daughter. In business, you should never outsource your core competency. I wonder if I really should be outsourcing the raising of my kids,that I love most in the world (of course I love my husband too).

Some of my cousins were home schooled and half of them are now not on speaking terms with their parents. Many of the kids in my college program who were home schooled were also kind of weird and sometimes socially crippled. A lot of home schooled kids are clearly from incredibly conservative religious fundamentalist families, so that's a stereotype you may have to deal with and quite potentially the type of people yo…

> kind of weird and sometimes socially crippled > A lot of home schooled kids are clearly from incredibly conservative religious fundamentalist families

I wonder if anti-social tendencies are more of a function of a child's home environment, in general, and not specifically related to homeschooling (though, of course, spending more time in the home would amplify the effect of that environment on a person's upbringing....).

I say that because I have spent time around a good number of home-schooled teenagers who live in stable, middle-class, non-extremist households and I can say that basically all of them are able to socially function at a very high level (well above average). Sure they might be hip with the latest Zoomer lingo (are teenagers still Gen-Z?) but they understood how to have intelligent conversations with adults as well as their peers (e.g. look someone in the eye when speaking to them, express their thoughts and opinions clearly, listen and understand what was being said to them).

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