Descriptions of what the app does are very vague. What does it actually do?
American Airlines is trying to stop a popular app used by flight attendants
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Re: American Airlines is trying to stop a popular app used by flight attendants
#232Clever PR at work here.
Re: American Airlines is trying to stop a popular app used by flight attendants
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure I interpret the article or the parent comment as saying American Airlines isn't allowed to do this. They're just making life harder for their employees and dont seem to be addressing the problem they're working around. It's just a little whistleblowing that they're a shitty employer. I think what the parent comment is trying to say is that their description of their approach here as "sophisticated bot de…
This is the company that is also currently sueing ThePointsGuy over an app that helps you manage your AAdvantage (loyalty) points. Suffice it to say, American Airlines IT are apparently a bunch of dicks.
Helps you maximize your AAdvantage points, which isn't entirely in AA's interest.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
> (casually implies kids have multiple workout outfits/shoes and regularly engage in expensive outdoor activities) Man, sometimes I'll run into a reminder that I grew up poor as dirt, haha
Ah come on "multiple workout outfits" is a little bit of a stretch of what I said. Everything I described except for the skiing stuff is normal in anything but the very poorest countries - in addition to what you listed, you didn't have a jumper for when it's cold or some old trainers for when it's muddy? I just wore my normal shorts for football whenever we went swimming (fyi my school didn't have a pool, but some d…
I grew up in the USA and only ever owned two pairs of shoes at once: my regular shoes, and shoes for church that were several sizes too big so they wouldn’t need to be replaced.
Re: American Airlines is trying to stop a popular app used by flight attendants
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the company that is also currently sueing ThePointsGuy over an app that helps you manage your AAdvantage (loyalty) points. Suffice it to say, American Airlines IT are apparently a bunch of dicks.
Helps you maximize your AAdvantage points, which isn't entirely in AA's interest.
While I see the logic in that a lot more, logical != Ethical.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Working remotely for your employer (as in, you're not traveling for work, but working while traveling) is not in breach of any tourist visa restrictions.
THIS IS FALSE ALMOST EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD AND IF DISCOVERED, CAN RESULT IN CRIMINAL AND/OR TAX PENALTIES. In general, it’s not legal to be an unregistered digital nomad unless you have the right to work in the country you are in. If you enter a country on a tourist visa, the primary purpose of the trip must be tourism. If you enter on a tourist visa for the intention of being a digital nomad, you have violated the…
> Working overseas without approval is usually a friable offense.
IOW, the chances of remaining employed will crumble.
Re: American Airlines is trying to stop a popular app used by flight attendants
#237I'm sad that this is happening to an app that's useful to its users, but the reality is that scraping is legal, always possible, but difficult. This particular case is a bit harder since it's not purely using public data, but may still qualify since it's likely scraping with legally-obtained credentials. I know of businesses (scraping for ride-sharing, scraping for business intelligence for retailers, scraping from L…
Playing devil’s advocate here: this is not the same as scraping LinkedIn data. Linkedin data is public. This app requires a login info from a flight attendants to scrape their schedules. When you try to log in, you can choose to login as public or as a AA flight attendant. It sucks, but I also understand why a company may be unhappy, that a third party handles credentials and accesses internal data. What they can: -…
> This app requires a login info from a flight attendants to scrape their schedules.
So? If the flight attendants have provided their credentials to the scraping software, they have essentially authorized the software to scrape the data on their accounts. It's just a custom user agent running locally and the airline company has no business blocking anything.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it’s your employers you do If it’s an app on apples App Store you do
Source? The courts have consistently ruled the other way on the question of scraping. If you then share confidential information with third parties your employer may (or may not) have a case.
All the rulings here have enforced employers rights to their data. The google engineer using their login to scrape users private emails and then running it through a third party platform would be fired.
Re: American Airlines is trying to stop a popular app used by flight attendants
#239I am not convinced that AA is actively trying to block this app. I used to work for a major anti-bot vendor, so from that I know that all airlines suffer heavily from price scraping and try to protect their flight search endpoints. The impact to them is due to fees from the centralized data services that all airlines depend on.
"Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence." I fly American between JFK and SFO regularly, including today. They have the best prices these days for an "international" business class on this route. The food is good, the flight attendants are friendly and good at their jobs... Automobile manufacturers offer pathetic "center console" software compared to Apple, Google. American's in-flight enterta…
American Airlines has by far the worst web page for any airline. Frequent broken pages. Good luck if you have a question.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then how do discount sites like Kayak, Expedia, or Matrix ITA/ Google Flights work without a hitch? The ticket prices are no lower than what SABRE will offer and it doesn't seem like AA is losing money in those cases.
There are API’s, just not public ones - only available under commercial agreement
SABRE charges per call. That's probably why AA is trying to stamp out this app – it costs them money because it triggers calls through to SABRE.