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Re: Teenager solves stubborn riddle about prime number look-alikes

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Post by lmm » Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 10:05 PM UTC

RC_ITR wrote: post #247

lmm wrote: post #211

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Students can tell who's smarter and who's not, and someone at the same level of learning will always be far more of a peer than someone who happens to be the same age. All the available evidence is that the best thing for children's social life is to let them interact with people at the same learning level rather than the same age. (To say nothing of the fact that segregating students by age is unnatural in the first…

You know what else is natural? Dying of polio

It's not coincidence that through most of human history doctors did more harm than good. Yes, sometimes unnatural interventions are better for us than the ancestral environment, but that's very much not the default case.

Re: Teenager solves stubborn riddle about prime number look-alikes

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Post by teachersaredumb » Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 4:16 AM UTC

skinnymuch wrote: post #257

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Among college-educated professionals, primary and secondary school teachers are near the bottom for intelligence, as measured by SAT scores. https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-average-sat-score-... The pay is shit, so intelligent people decide to pursue other passions instead of teaching. Also, the profession seems to attract the kind of people who like to exercise arbitrary authority over other people. Not a…

Isn’t the biggest or one of the biggest indicator of SAT scores is how wealthy/well off the test taker is? Similarly, the IQ test is flawed too. Neither are representative of intelligence or what is required to be a good teacher

No. SAT is in fact fairly resistant to preparation. Not as much as some other tests, and not as much as the older versions of the SAT, but it's still largely an intelligence test.

Re: Teenager solves stubborn riddle about prime number look-alikes

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Post by misterprime » Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 3:47 PM UTC

dmurray wrote: post #209

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No - eugenics is by definition arranged. If a government nudged you to pair up with someone, that would be eugenics, but if you choose a mate of your own free will, it's not.

How much nudging do you need before it's eugenics? Would it be eugenics if you were to take young men and women, separate them roughly by area of interest and level of intellectual achievement, remove them from the chaperoning influence of their families, and put them in an institution for four years at the perfect time of their life to form pair bonds? What if you additionally supplied them with easy access to alcoh…

Interesting new take: "College: the hidden eugenics program."

This sort of makes sense to me.

Re: Teenager solves stubborn riddle about prime number look-alikes

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Post by skinnymuch » Wed, Oct 19, 2022, 11:24 AM UTC

teachersaredumb wrote: post #262

skinnymuch wrote: post #257

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Isn’t the biggest or one of the biggest indicator of SAT scores is how wealthy/well off the test taker is? Similarly, the IQ test is flawed too. Neither are representative of intelligence or what is required to be a good teacher

No. SAT is in fact fairly resistant to preparation. Not as much as some other tests, and not as much as the older versions of the SAT, but it's still largely an intelligence test.

Families making $200K+ do 400 points higher than families making $40K or $20K or less. I forget the exact figure. This study is widely available. 400 point difference is so massive it shows it’s not largely an intelligence test nor is it resistant to prep.