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TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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Re: TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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Yeah, this isn't really that different than quant hedge funds hiring theoretical physics PhDs. It's not like you're actually going to be doing Yang Mills field equations to trade some stocks. They just need a guy to run some linear regressions, and can afford to find someone really really overqualified so they don't screw up.

Not sure if these people are overqualified as much as the fact that people who check the box on paper are generally unqualified. Generally good people can only really do math up to a few years below the highest level that they learned in school. If you actually need someone to do basic linear algebra you probably want somehow who took classes that went well beyond the freshman/sophomore level that everyone has.

If this is true, I suspect it is only true because most people can do arithmetic despite having taken high school math

Re: TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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"Our brightest minds are making people click ads" ...

Still better than wasting away the intelligence inventing something that will never hit the market and make any impact

no. it's better to contribute nothing than contribute net harm.

Re: TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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[citation needed] US, on the other hand, definitely doesn't - everyone from the top is chosen by politicians.

> [citation needed] I’m not claiming anything controversial. The SPC openly says that they follow the guidance of the Party. https://qz.com/886665/xi-jinping-promised-legal-reform-in-ch... The US has a judiciary comprising of judges picked by politicians from two competing parties.

>the guidance of the Party

Which, translated to western terms, is like guidance of the Department of Justice.

>politicians from two competing parties

Here the term “party” means something completely different from above. If you imagine the political system as layers, China places boundaries between those layers differently from the West, and if you continue to use the terms for those layers (“party”) without realizing this, you’ll arrive at silly conclusions.

Re: TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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TikTok, Facebook and Twitter are pharmaceutical companies. They peddle quick dopamine hits. We're all junkies that can't/won't pay for the hits so they wrap up the drugs they give us in ad-paper.

This analogy is cringe because it's overstretched. Argument: For example, are books considered pharmaceutical products (typically not quick--that would be like "delayed release" medicine) just because you get pleasure from reading them?

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Re: TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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If you buy the theory that Bytedance is a covert operation by the Chinese government, then this fits the narrative. Use the TikTok brand to attract top global talent and perform research in areas of general interest for government agencies. They only need to build a backdoor for Chinese officials to access the research data. Sounds far fetched but I believe this is well within the realm of possibilities.

Chinese law requires companies to make provisions for representing the interests of the CCP within companies of significant size. This isn’t a conspiracy, it’s routine business law. There is no need for the CCP to conspire to control businesses. They have ultimate control of business law. The idea that companies and governments are independent things is a pretty capitalist perspective. There’s a wide range of other p…

If the party wanted to tap into (or monopolize) the top emerging computationalists from the world, beyond the limit of Chinese nationals, and you were one of them approaching graduation, would you be willing to or allowed to be recruited directly into party service with a paycheck coming directly from the party?

Or more likely to merely work remotely as an employee of a captive company?

Looks like a minimum of 7 staggered projects where each one may already have a defined objective which needs to remain obscure to the actual participants under this program.

>Our goal is to create breakthroughs in natural science with new methodology

Directly straightforward, everybody wants this. It's completely true and challenging enough that the recruits will need to be immersed in this to the max, given anything they want in pursuit of this objective, with no stone unturned.

>and help the world.

Help the world do what?

None of these recruits will have any influence as to "what" turns out to be, and will be expected to never concern themseleves with this other side of the equation. Those that conform can be rewarded over the long term better than any non-monopoly can compare to, increasing the likelihood of having their challenging scientific objectives being eventually met.

Naievete looks so important that upcoming graduates appear to have precedece over established professionals. Rather than the proven performance that businesses can count on, there could instead be emphasis on freshly proven potential, willing to be indoctrinated into a "company" culture that is "humble, intelligent, compassionate and creative" on the party's own (carefully crafted) terms so any alternative cultural features can be nipped in the bud.

This is intended to be someone's first job [0] and they definitely want to see if they can find the kind of people who would have ordinarily worked for Bell Labs if it was still a monopoly.

As always you've got to carefully choose what kind of monopolies and their labs you want to promote, or even support at all.

If the monopolistic salvos are large enough, it might even be possible to fully brain-drain the competition while exponentially increasing their own chances of complete domination.

[0] Well actually almost every one of them's first job.

Re: TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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No, because literally every business that exists wants to advertise. (And also organizations that aren't businesses, like NGO's and government agencies and non-profits.)

Well, advertising only stimulates consumption, to the detriment of our planet. Also, it is a loudness war, that is a race to the bottom in various ways. As an individual business owner you want it, as society you don't.

That's like saying "money only stimulates consumption and causes pollution".

Technically it is true, but good luck on your crusade of abolishing money.

Re: TikTok has an open computational chemistry position

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A few generations ago many of our brightest minds were building doomsday weapons to incinerate all life on Earth, so maybe this is progress.

Nuclear weapons have killed about ~200k people in all of history. Advertising probably kills that many people most months when you consider things like: * Convincing people that various groups needs to be genocided * Convincing people to use cars instead of less dangerous methods of transportation * Convincing people to use fossil fuels instead of less polluting forms of energy * Convincing people to eat unhealthy fo…

> Nuclear weapons have killed about ~200k people in all of history.

So far. Present performance is not indicative of future returns. All it will take is one nut job (who could still be Putin depending on how this turns out) escalating to even a "regional" nuclear war to add a zero or two to that number, and it could happen very quickly.

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