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Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by tchaffee »

seibelj wrote: post #53
another_story wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is mostly a strawman, since I don't see almost anyone arguing for complete equality of pay, status or position, merely that a handful of people shouldn't be able to accumulate the wealth of small nations on the back of others. In countries in Europe, and places in Asia, there are plenty of examples where there is less inequality and the students perform better.

Europe has many poor countries and even developed ones (UK) are having quality of life decreases due mostly to a lack of private sector success - the government eventually runs out of money without private business to fill its coffers. Happy to be in the US especially with the global economic recession incoming

The US has many poor states. Some of which have a lower quality of life than poor EU states.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by hutzlibu »

px43 wrote: post #73
ackbar03 wrote: post #69

There's actually quite a large Indian hacker community on platforms like hackerone, and when you look at their Twitter profiles, it seems like quite a lot of them are from these remote village type places, which I think is fascinating. This is the first time I've read about mercenary hacker for hire groups from India but I guess it's not surprising.

I think it's covered in the Dark Basin episode of Darknet Diaries, but India apparently has a reputation for especially aggressive private investigators, who were historically used to dig up dirt on families before committing to marriage pacts, but in the modern era are used regularly for PR and corporate blackmail. Apparently this practice is ingrained enough into the culture that digging up dirt on people by any me…

"digging up dirt on people by any means necessary is widely accepted, and not even illegal in most contexts."

Well, digging up dirt is also legal in the west, the question is what "any means necessary" is. I cannot believe that it is legal to hack someone for example.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by alex_smart »

fareesh wrote: post #79
WFHRenaissance wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Foreign hacking groups are often beyond the reach of Western law enforcement. If a domestic threat had been to blame here, there would be legal/financial recourse for damage done. That's not the case here. Implicit in this article is the report of a new kind of warfare for which many Americans have no good defense against. 2. Standard editorial racism a la "The Oriental Threat".

Indians will read this and not once think of racism Reminds me of the "voter ID is racist" argument

Granted I haven't read the article yet, but I read some of the comments here and definitely did think of racism.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

#104

Post by alex_smart »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #98
watwut wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definition of racism that includes nationality is not "broader". It is the definition of racism. It is also very common form of racism worldwide.

Has common usage subsumed any geography-based xenophobia into the word “racism”? (Not that any xenophobia is particularly better than any other, but it’s difficult to talk to people when they use broader meanings for words you thought meant very specific thing. See also terrorism vs insurgency, genocide vs occupation, etc.)

Yes

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

#105

Post by mola »

tchaffee wrote: post #100
Natsu wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk would have more difficulty funding all those companies that have made all those advances. And there are already very few Musks out there.

One person deciding where all that money is invested is a sort of economic dictator. Trying to live on Mars is polluting our planet. If you don't agree with that use of resources, it's not a benevolent dictatorship.

This. The problem is a dstribution of power most of all. If power is concentrated in government, it's as bad if it's concentrated with an individual with his own private police force. Private espionage force etc.

All this strawman about the failures of absolute equality are just slight of hand to ignore the very obvious problem with a world where a single person have the power of a state.

The state legitimacy should come from the people participation in govering themselves. Not from some psuedo meritocracy. Concentrated power without checks and balances is the problem, not specifically "the state". I wish all libertarians would wake up and see that very obvious threat to freedom.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by _448 »

"Indian hackers"...sorry but being an Indian, this sounds bit odd. India is not able to even defend itself from hacking attacks. That is the state of India when it comes to hacking skill-sets. So the words "Indian" and "hackers" does not blend together very well. Just sayin.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by awillen »

_448 wrote: post #106

"Indian hackers"...sorry but being an Indian, this sounds bit odd. India is not able to even defend itself from hacking attacks. That is the state of India when it comes to hacking skill-sets. So the words "Indian" and "hackers" does not blend together very well. Just sayin.

It's a whole lot harder to defend yourself from hacking attacks than to hack. The US government has been hacked as of a couple of years ago, and you better believe they can hack you.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by watwut »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #98
watwut wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definition of racism that includes nationality is not "broader". It is the definition of racism. It is also very common form of racism worldwide.

Has common usage subsumed any geography-based xenophobia into the word “racism”? (Not that any xenophobia is particularly better than any other, but it’s difficult to talk to people when they use broader meanings for words you thought meant very specific thing. See also terrorism vs insurgency, genocide vs occupation, etc.)

Racism as something based on skin color only would make Nazi basically not racists in their worst acts. Cause their racism was literally Aryan race against all other races - Slavic, Jews (European Jews where white, the physical features were like somewhat bigger nose), British, French. With Jews on the bottom, as the wort enemy worst then blacks. And they would not care a bit about different kind of Indians either.

If anything, attempts to redefine racism as only American variant where it is all about shades of color is redefinition.

And obviously, ethnicity and geography goes with races.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by balderdash »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #28

One thing that I should point out, is that he is not going after the WSJ, for any impropriety in his firing. They are really the ones that damaged his career. So I suspect that there is more to this story than is apparent.

How do you figure? The WSJ didn’t initiate or take part in the hacking scheme. They fired an employee that appeared to be engaged in impropriety / not meeting the organizations ethical standards.

It’s like if someone broke into you house and found letters to a lover and published them, and your partner then divorced you, would you blame your partner or the person that broke into your house?

I am curious why he is not naming the Emerati prince that hired the law firm.

Re: Former WSJ reporter says law firm used Indian hackers to sabotage his career

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Post by rprwhite »

badRNG wrote: post #77
px43 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's covered in the Dark Basin episode of Darknet Diaries, but India apparently has a reputation for especially aggressive private investigators, who were historically used to dig up dirt on families before committing to marriage pacts, but in the modern era are used regularly for PR and corporate blackmail. Apparently this practice is ingrained enough into the culture that digging up dirt on people by any me…

It's interesting, because India is also a hub for these "hacker scams" where so-called hackers on Whatsapp will promise to change your grade, see if your partner is cheating, or get you a pay raise and then run off with your money. I wonder how one is able to tell the difference between actual hacking services and scams claiming to offer the same.

This seems bizarre to me. Under what context would would it be legitimate for any of those things to occur? A pay raise maybe. But, why would someone (crucial part, here, being someone you don’t know) be negotiating it for you?
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