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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by themitigating »

llanowarelves wrote: post #136
themitigating wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You example doesn't make sense for this situation. It's between two people and things they did. However, The OP isn't the US government and hasn't committed war crimes (I assume). Also your example isn't even whataboutism which is defined as "the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue." What other accusation or difficult qu…

Holding another group or person to the same/similar standard is often called "whataboutism" though. I will concede that that is probably misplaced (and malicious) application and not what was originally intended. That's why claims of hypocrisy against the other party, backed up with examples of the same behavior in other situations from them instead of you, can be cheaply dismissed as "whataboutism".

Using whataboutism to deflect a claim of hypocrisy is wrong, I'm completly with you on that. However to be even more firm about this, regardless of the intentions of whataboutism, you can't hold citizens of a country responsible for the actions of their government unless they were directly involved.

However... visa V mastercard , using whataboutism is valid in this situation. Bringing up something the US government did in the past to silence the criticism of a US citizen to another countries actions is wrong.

EDIT: Just another thought about your example. There isn't even hypocrisy. Person B lent money to A and A paid it back, then Person A lent money to B and B didn't pay it back.

- B doesn't pay back money

- A pays back money

There's no contradictions in their actions.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by vidarh »

omnimus wrote: post #127
PaulRobinson wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paper tickets can be resold into the tout/scalper market. Electronic tickets can't. That's a nice feature for FIFA.

You would be surprised how well app screenshot in full screen with the qr code works. Seen this many times with covid vaccination passes.

No idea about this app, but presumably that's the reason why quite a few apps show animations and a rotating code word alongside the QR codes, so staff can easily spot that kind of thing.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by culturestate »

roebk wrote: post #82

This was the same situation for the UEFA Women’s Euros in England this year. For those wondering, the app was simply for storing, transferring, and displaying your tickets. A ticket being a QR code for you to scan at the stadium turnstiles. Was the app required? Absolutely not, there was nothing specific that the mobile app could do that a simple website couldn’t (apart from the screen brightness jumping to 100% when…

> there was nothing specific that the mobile app could do that a simple website couldn’t … I’m sure even a printed QR code would of sufficed.

I don’t know about that app specifically, but most of the major ticketing providers are doing dynamic barcodes[1] now that are effectively TOTPs for entry. You can’t do this reliably on the web for a major event because you can’t assume network connectivity, and obviously a printout or screenshot won’t work.

1. https://techcrunch.com/2019/05/16/ticketmaster-put-an-end-to...

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by polotics »

smcl wrote: post #216
polotics wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does FIFA own a copyright on the word "football"? no Does shipping 20 players from 50 poorer countries cost a lot? no does FIFA even owns a copyright on the words "Football World Cup"?

EA could very well setup "The EA Football World Cup" and invite the world's football associations to participate in it, with substantial prize money as a reward. But even if the countries could participate (they couldn't, unless they sent their Under 21s or other development/reserve players, see my other comment) and even if they did participate (many wouldn't) the tournament would be seen as an inferior knock-off an…

How do you know this? A size 140 Arsenal jersey wearer I know would beg to differ, the Quatar catastrophe being clear for any age to understand. How do you think it would be inferior? The rules of football would be respected, and also it would match EA's official console football game!

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by fhaldridge7 »

worstestes wrote: post #80
lisper wrote: post #64

This is the reason that when I travel I carry two phones. One is the phone I actually use, and the other is the one I give to authorities when they ask for my phone. It is astonishing to me that not once have I ever been asked if I have a second phone. (It will be an interesting experiment to see if that happens now that I have posted this here.)

Where do authorities ask for your phone? Just curious

I went to the US for tourism and the immigration asked for my phone. They checked the contacts and asked me about random people (who they are, how I met them etc.)

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by kergonath »

zetaposter wrote: post #33

- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…

That’s cute, except that of course in the real world you get some nice quality time with border control/the police/secret services well before that if you try playing these games.

Or: try arguing about the fourth amendment, human rights and the constitution when a uniformed thug wants to seize your phone when you fly into the US. It does not sound that clever in the real world.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by kergonath »

hulitu wrote: post #101
BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the aspect of Qatari law that stands out to you as unsettling?

Qatar is our friend. Qatar is a democracy.

They certainly have a lot of money. Aren’t dollars basically people these days? Not to mention, oil.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by zinekeller »

culturestate wrote: post #233
roebk wrote: post #82

This was the same situation for the UEFA Women’s Euros in England this year. For those wondering, the app was simply for storing, transferring, and displaying your tickets. A ticket being a QR code for you to scan at the stadium turnstiles. Was the app required? Absolutely not, there was nothing specific that the mobile app could do that a simple website couldn’t (apart from the screen brightness jumping to 100% when…

> there was nothing specific that the mobile app could do that a simple website couldn’t … I’m sure even a printed QR code would of sufficed. I don’t know about that app specifically, but most of the major ticketing providers are doing dynamic barcodes[1] now that are effectively TOTPs for entry. You can’t do this reliably on the web for a major event because you can’t assume network connectivity, and obviously a pri…

> You can’t do this reliably on the web for a major event because you can’t assume network connectivity

I can't believe I'm saying this, but you could've use PWA instead (except for brightness).

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