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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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It is certainly unsettling how laws will blindly introduce a dependency on Google or Apple

This is the aspect of Qatari law that stands out to you as unsettling?

I didn't realize subthreads weren't allowed to isolate subcontexts and discuss them. Are the other 50+ comments not enough to satisfy you?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Every country should have rights to control what enters their borders. Be it phones or people. Nothing unreasonable here considering the existing standards of border control around the world. Just next logical step to prevent terrorism and undesirable activities. Don't like it, don't go.

> Don't like it, don't go.

I am not going, but I guess players do not have this choice?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…

The great news is that just like you're not forced to buy an Android or iOS device, you're not forced to travel to Qatar.

"Vote with your feet" applies to jurisdictions just like it applies to technologies. Of course, like with technologies, making such a choice has the potential to limit you in other ways.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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The danger is enabling them and normalizing these particular laws. It's objectively wrong to punish people for being gay.

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I suspect you're not as much for gay rights as some people if you're going to moral relativism state sponsored murder of minority groups.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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He's right about the whataboutism though.

decrying whataboutism is starting to just look like deflection. Calling out hypocrisy is not whataboutism.

It is. I could see point if the people from USA seriously cleaned their own house before attacking others. Anything else comes out just as malicious. Maybe they should start with privacy for everyone and getting rid of slavery...

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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What if you don’t have a smart phone? Or hell, what about one that’s 5+ years old? Are they just SoL?

what is SoL?

> What if you don’t have a smart phone?

Remember, that you want something from them (entering the country). They can refuse you if they don't like your old-fashioned lifestyle.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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This was the same situation for the UEFA Women’s Euros in England this year. For those wondering, the app was simply for storing, transferring, and displaying your tickets. A ticket being a QR code for you to scan at the stadium turnstiles. Was the app required? Absolutely not, there was nothing specific that the mobile app could do that a simple website couldn’t (apart from the screen brightness jumping to 100% when…

Paper tickets can be resold into the tout/scalper market. Electronic tickets can't. That's a nice feature for FIFA.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#98
Free countries should shut down all travel including airlines in and out of Qatar, and issue a travel warning.

In fact this should have happened years ago..

https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/10/27/women-reportedly-subject...

Otherwise, what do we believe in? what do we stand for? Do we truly only car about money?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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This is really no different than what other countries do, e.g. US border officials extensively questioning foreigners or asking for usernames and passwords for social media. As a visitor you have to abide by the law of the country, which may be different from your own country, and whose interpretation may be stretched by border control at the point of entry. The only difference here is that they were able to build an…

> The only difference here is that they were able to build an app to do all the tracking in plain sight. I'm sure governments in the US and Europe would love to be able to force all visitors to install a similar app. Yet, we do not because unlike in Qatar, the UAE and other religious dictatorships, we are a democracy and we have the ability to change our government. You can do better than whatbouatism.

There is no political party in the US that is against the rigorous collection of private information of people entering the country. Biometric data, social media account disclosure, excessive questioning by the TSA. You literally have no option to change any of this.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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post #93

- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…

The great news is that just like you're not forced to buy an Android or iOS device, you're not forced to travel to Qatar. "Vote with your feet" applies to jurisdictions just like it applies to technologies. Of course, like with technologies, making such a choice has the potential to limit you in other ways.

Do not worry, the WEF and UN will be diligently taking notes of this field test and by the time it's rolled out in your country this will be resolved.

I cannot wait to have a social credit score! It is a wonderful idea and I am only disappointed that our wise un-elected WEF and UN leaders are being so shy in rolling it out.

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