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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy." What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

The danger is enabling them and normalizing these particular laws. It's objectively wrong to punish people for being gay.

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#82
This was the same situation for the UEFA Women’s Euros in England this year.

For those wondering, the app was simply for storing, transferring, and displaying your tickets. A ticket being a QR code for you to scan at the stadium turnstiles.

Was the app required? Absolutely not, there was nothing specific that the mobile app could do that a simple website couldn’t (apart from the screen brightness jumping to 100% when displaying the QR code). I’m sure even a printed QR code would of sufficed.

Both UEFA and FIFA should reconsider their approach to ticketing.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#83

- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…

It is certainly unsettling how laws will blindly introduce a dependency on Google or Apple

This is the aspect of Qatari law that stands out to you as unsettling?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#84
Every country should have rights to control what enters their borders. Be it phones or people. Nothing unreasonable here considering the existing standards of border control around the world. Just next logical step to prevent terrorism and undesirable activities. Don't like it, don't go.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#85

Permissions from Aurora Store (3rd party to Play Store): Hayya: - control vibration - have full network access - prevent phone from sleeping - run at startup - run foreground service - view Wi-Fi connections - view network connections - access sensor data at a high sampling rate - access approximate location only in the foreground - access precise location only the foreground - listen to C2DM messages Etheraz: - acce…

"listen to C2DM" is for push notifications iirc

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#86

I wish the "experts" were also sounding alarms about required face-scanning when I am trying to board an airplane in the West?

Or that certain border agencies demand you to give electronic devices and password to them. Seems extremely late to get on board of this issue.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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post #85

Permissions from Aurora Store (3rd party to Play Store): Hayya: - control vibration - have full network access - prevent phone from sleeping - run at startup - run foreground service - view Wi-Fi connections - view network connections - access sensor data at a high sampling rate - access approximate location only in the foreground - access precise location only the foreground - listen to C2DM messages Etheraz: - acce…

"listen to C2DM" is for push notifications iirc

C2DM was shutdown in 2015 (https://developers.google.com/android/c2dm/)

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's right about the whataboutism though.

decrying whataboutism is starting to just look like deflection. Calling out hypocrisy is not whataboutism.

It's not hypocrisy because the poster has never been the president of the United States, the person who authorizes military operations. I'm also going to go out on a limb an assume they haven't committed a war crime as soldier, commander, or any person who would be directly involved.

Whataboutism: "the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue"

Hypocrisy: "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense."

You can't be a hypocrite for something another person, group, or country has done. Even if you are a member of that grouping*. Notice how the definition clearly states "one's own behavior".

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* I'm sure there's an exception here if you represent that group or control that group, like the CEO of a company or a spokesman. However just being a citizen of a country doesn't apply.*

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#89
post #84

Every country should have rights to control what enters their borders. Be it phones or people. Nothing unreasonable here considering the existing standards of border control around the world. Just next logical step to prevent terrorism and undesirable activities. Don't like it, don't go.

You’re gonna get downvoted but I don’t think you’re altogether wrong. If the World Cup gets hit by extremists, Qatar’s reputation will be hit harder than anything else.

Who now blames anyone but Germany and its incompetence for Black September’s actions in the 1972 Munich Olympics?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#90
Since Electronic Arts righteously dumped FIFA like a ton of rotten bricks, why don't they organise a football world cup instead? Less corruption money must mean more leftover for the players and staff involved. Also instead of some nebulous process for the host country selection, get game owners to vote, they're already very securely identified. The time to ride on the complete stink the air conditioned slave-labour edition will produce is now. Get your lawyers to review the contractual structure of leagues and clubs, it can't be that the whole international set of deals is failsafe, players can probably just walk.
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