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Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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The Seattle Times joined followed a carb boat in April of 2022. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/into-t... The captain's take on the issue includes climate change, over crabbing areas known to be struggling and trawling. The article also includes an explanation as to how cod could be responsible due to climate change offering less ice protection for the crab.

Damn fine journalism ... hope Hal got a bonus for it!

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Veganism is the (only logical) future.

The issue is that people en masse don’t actually care all that much about the cruelty of killing animals so long as it’s not reasonably torturous. The future, however dystopian you may see it, is sustainably growing the animals we want to eat for slaughter.

Life is cruel, get over it.

This is an idiotic comment, but well, here it is.

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If the world doesn't get over fossil fuel addiction and allowing oil companies to push us to near extinction for their profits, really soon, the worse is yet to come.

Talk to a European about that evil addiction to fossil fuel this winter.

I bet they all know that none of them are among the biggest carbon-burners.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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How is a 90% decrease in two years similar to a 93% decrease over 30 years?

Top 2 comments are like "oh yeah this is over fishing" when the only thing in common with cod are that they're in the ocean. Either folks aren't RTFA or are being willfully ignorant. Over fishing to the tune 1bn crabs when juvenile populations from 2018 and 2019 looked great? No way.

Tw current threats to the foodweb in the ocean are microplastics and wastewater release from Fukushima nuclear reactor area.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Overfishing is a classic problem of "Tragedy of the Commons". The oceans are the commons. For example, nobody is predicting a catastrophic decline in the population of pigs, chickens, and cattle. Fish farming is the future.

They often feed the fish in farms with wild fish... it's a joke, currently.

So often that you could say almost always. To make the joke even funnier, the feed is loaded with supplements and medications which are extremely disruptive to local biomes. There is nothing sustainable about most forms of fish farming, and the externalities are absurd.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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You might ask, what problems is globalism going to solve that treaties and national cooperation can't today? More importantly, what will those mechanisms be and will they be just as vulnerable to the problems of corruption and interconnection that plague the meaningful enforcement of treaties and agreements today? The difference is, much as the same with a democratic nation. In a democratic nation, citizens collectiv…

>"...encouraged by various means ; fines, jail, etc, to obey that collective decision" Encouraged my ass. I would call it what it is - threat of violence by governments.

Sure, in response to equally violent acts by fishing boats.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is that people en masse don’t actually care all that much about the cruelty of killing animals so long as it’s not reasonably torturous. The future, however dystopian you may see it, is sustainably growing the animals we want to eat for slaughter.

Life is cruel, get over it. This is an idiotic comment, but well, here it is.

Part of what makes life living is that we can spare the cruelty when we can, making the world a better place.

If I can do my part to reduce that cruelty, that warms my heart a lot more than a burger or fish tacos.

In a sense I suppose I get over it by making it better, not by being complacent.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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My current employer was just talking about how the cost of seafood is rising because of things like this.

Don't expect your plate of crab or lobster to be cheap these next few years folks.

And if it is cheap somehow, stop eating there. They are probably part of the problem.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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> negative reputation of soy and masculinity That's a ruse/tactic of the meat industry, nothing more. Meat/dairy is full of estrogens, phytoestrogens are in fact protective against real estrogens. Btw, I don't think that masculinity depends on eating corpses / animal secretions. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/modern-minds/202005/...

And forget phytoestrogens, commercial milk has plain ol estrogen: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19496976/ “Soy boy” never made much sense to me. Most people who fling that epithet could probably improve their health outcomes with some edamame.

Among the phytoestrogens, it seems like hops are exceptionally potent and disruptive to human hormones as well. This is a bit ironic because it’s a common ingredient in beer, another thing sometimes associated with masculinity.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Something similar happened to the cod fishing industry in Newfoundland and other parts of eastern Canada 30 years ago. The reason: overfishing, due in large part to technological advances. Here's what happened: Canada and NAFO continued to overestimate the abundance of cod in the Atlantic Ocean and therefore continued to set dangerously high [Total Allowable Catches]. This was in large part due to the widespread prac…

I work in the Alaska fishery and am typing this while sat in one of the largest fish processing facilities in the western hemisphere. I have the spare time because, well, there's no crabs coming in and everything else is mostly out of season. About half of the boats on Discovery belong to the company I work for, the largest in the US. So I'll take the opportunity to share some on-the-ground observations. Overfishing:…

> Disease: Is there a precedent in Earth's natural history of a 90% die-off in two years due to disease

On mobile, so I can't provide a link. Look up sea star wasting disease. It's affected several species of sea star from Alaska to the Gulf of Mexico. One species, the sunflower star went from being everywhere to a red listed endangered species over just a couple of years.

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