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Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Why are you assuming that the poster is hinting at China when his comment didn't mention the country?

How many states are there with access to pacific waters that could potentially have thousands of unregistered fishing vessels and whom a poster would be uncomfortable naming explicitly for fear of backlash?

Seems odd that this is a logical guess, but then that's labelled as "xenophobic speculation".

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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From your bio: > SEO, and Marketing are my passions. Over the last 36-months my ads have made $1.36+ million in sales. > Our ability to change the earth for the worse exceeds our willingness to change ourselves for the better. You know what you're talking about.

Please don't cross into personal attack.

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Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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There are many ways to solve the specific problem of overfishing, mostly to set aside zones where fishing is not allowed so the population can recover. This is at the level of government and states, having little to do with anything within my power.

Creating zones is one thing, enforcement is another. Hopefully technology can help solve this because I honestly don't see any other way - the oceans are too vast.

Enforcement is a solved problem - ships can be tracked by various means, ports where catches can be offloaded can be audited, crews can be arrested and ships impounded when in port. No one is going to overfish if they can't economically get their catch to market and get paid for their troubles. The issue is getting everyone to enforce the policies consistently - the leaders of different jurisdictions may not see eye to eye on what level of protection is optimal, and the people actually doing the enforcement may be willing to turn a blind eye to violations depending on circumstances.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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This likely isn't true due to the scale of disappearance of crabs. *90% of the are gone - in only 2 years* That's not just overfishing, something much worse has happened. The cod overfishing was also a very unfortunate tale, but they saw the signs and tracked them catching fire and burning to the ground the entire time, just didn't do anything about it. Here, AFAIK, they were bewildered at how this occured.

Other sources I've seen are blaming the dramatic heat during the summer of 2019. It "scrambled the broader marine ecosystem" causing die-offs and migrations for many species of fish. Snow Crabs are primarily deep water scavengers so they had plenty of food that year, but have struggled since.

Some people don't want to hear that because it's counter to their world-view. Earth isn't warming. Everything is OK. We can continue burning fossil fuels while having zero impact to the environment. Is there a word describing this mass wishful thinking?

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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The anthropocene will be visible in every history of the planet as one of the most rapid changes in every geologically and archaeologically observable metric, on the scale of the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. The asteroid may vanished in a massive conflagration, but people don't talk about it because that particular lump of space rock went extinct, they talk about all the other changes that came about as a resu…

> observable metric By who though? Our entire existence could very well be a tree falling in an empty forest.

By whoever is making the footnotes.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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How feasible is it to grow crabs in captivity? We need to start farming food, no way natural ecosystems can support themselves _and_ humans at current levels.

No idea, but I see more plant-based food in our future generally. It's gotta be way, way cheaper to farm crops than fauna and farm-raised seafood comes with it's own issues with mercury, etc.

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Do you have any evidence to back this up, or is this just xenophobic speculation? China’s encroachment on sovereign waters for fishing is one thing when it’s against South American countries with small navies; it’s another thing entirely when it’s the US. I doubt they’re behind this.

Why are you assuming that the poster is hinting at China when his comment didn't mention the country?

Tell me what other country the OP could possibly mean when they said "countries I dare not to list for being downvoted".

Re: Alaska snow crab season canceled after disappearance of an estimated 1B crabs

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Earth isn't in trouble, but we are. Earth will continue on and we'll end up as a minor footnote in the history of the planet.

No earth is, there are things on the planet besides us and inanimate objects. There is a whole biosphere that we are destroying for small incremental gains. this is a very human-centric viewpoint. So what if a particular action does not improves standard of living for humans if it impacts billions of other species and breaks delicate ecosystems. Honestly I am at a point where I dont care as much about human prosperity (think higher levels of maslow's hierarchy of needs) as about saving the biosphere.
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