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Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by Loic »

RexRollman wrote: post #44

Out of curiousity, what is the best way to end a multiple day fast? It would seem to me that eating too much at once or eating the wrong thing would make someone feel sick.

Start simply with water boiled potatoes, then carrots, then slowly things like bread. My parents are doing a one week fast every year and this is what they do. It takes time to go back to normal food as the bacteria in your intestine need to grow again.

The first time you do a one week fast, do it with people who are used to do it. In Europe you can find a lot of associations/clubs/whatever offering a one week seminar to do it.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by tptacek »

troystribling wrote: post #48
tptacek wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm about as serious a high-quality protein advocate as probably exists in the leaderboard for this site (neither "organic" nor "grassfed" are particularly important adjectives for me, so much as "local" and "humane"), and I do not understand what this has to do with diet and weight loss. Do you actually believe you're more likely to lose weight eating organic protein?

Here is an article summarizing research on the nutrition benefits of grass feed vs. grain feed beef http://www.bulletproofexec.com/grass-fed-meat-part-1/

Omega-3's? That's the whole benefit?

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by tptacek »

dextorious wrote: post #35
tptacek wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really believe that? Maybe the antibiotics in the chicken --- although truly healthy chicken is spectacularly expensive, and even products labeled "organic" can still be flooded with antibiotics "to prevent disease outbreaks" which are inevitable in factory farms. Other than antibiotics, I generally call BS on the health benefits of "organic" and "grass fed" protein. You should eat organic --- or, VERY prefera…

Do you think a) chicken fed not with grass/organic food but with whatever's cheaper and convenient (in Europe there were several scandals where they even found that they used machine oil in chicken feed), b) packed by the thousands in small cages, c) full off antibiotics and hormones to grow them fatter, are totally as healthy as organic chicken? (I used to have a chicken den (sp?), with 10-15 chickens in my backyard…

I believe antibiotics are a real human health issue.

But otherwise, no, I don't believe there's a real human health difference between Purdue chicken and the Gunthorp Farms chicken I get from my butcher.

I certainly don't believe you're going to lose weight faster eating the better chicken. You might even lose weight slower, since authenticatically humane chicken is extraordinarily expensive, and chicken (that you cook at home) is probably going to tend to be a better dietary option than the alternative.

Sorry.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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tptacek wrote: post #53
dextorious wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think a) chicken fed not with grass/organic food but with whatever's cheaper and convenient (in Europe there were several scandals where they even found that they used machine oil in chicken feed), b) packed by the thousands in small cages, c) full off antibiotics and hormones to grow them fatter, are totally as healthy as organic chicken? (I used to have a chicken den (sp?), with 10-15 chickens in my backyard…

I believe antibiotics are a real human health issue. But otherwise, no, I don't believe there's a real human health difference between Purdue chicken and the Gunthorp Farms chicken I get from my butcher. I certainly don't believe you're going to lose weight faster eating the better chicken. You might even lose weight slower, since authenticatically humane chicken is extraordinarily expensive, and chicken (that you co…

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Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by emp_ »

fingerprinter wrote: post #14

I'm going to jump right into the idea of fasting for 6 days and the unfortunate reality that most people in our field(s) don't. 1. know how to lose weight (really) 2. know how to eat 3. know how to workout Here, if you want to try fasting, which I do recommend, give this a shot. http://www.leangains.com/ or do the Warrior diet (one huge meal a day). A 16/8 fast is great. Heck, I sometimes even do an eat-stop-eat way…

I was just thinking about this, will give the Warrior diet a try (never did a diet, at 211 lbs 5'9") but mostly because I've been eating really little (fish+rice+lettuce salad) in the past 3 months without much effect.

The idea of only eating a nice meal at night is great to me since I hate the food around work (from fast to fancy), and dislike bringing it everyday from home even tho I absolutely love the wife's cooking skills, anyway thanks for the ideas!

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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[deleted] wrote: post #54
tptacek wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe antibiotics are a real human health issue. But otherwise, no, I don't believe there's a real human health difference between Purdue chicken and the Gunthorp Farms chicken I get from my butcher. I certainly don't believe you're going to lose weight faster eating the better chicken. You might even lose weight slower, since authenticatically humane chicken is extraordinarily expensive, and chicken (that you co…

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Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by mapleoin »

tptacek wrote: post #52
troystribling wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is an article summarizing research on the nutrition benefits of grass feed vs. grain feed beef http://www.bulletproofexec.com/grass-fed-meat-part-1/

Omega-3's? That's the whole benefit?

That's a huge benefit however, there are few other sources of Omega-3s in our daily diet.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by JoshTriplett »

jmtame wrote: post #16

Sounds like your body transitioned into ketosis during the third or fourth day. You can know for sure by buying ketone test strips and drinking enough water. I've tested out ketosis for myself and experienced some strange effects: salad tasted better, but I had no cravings and no hunger; some days all I had was an egg. It's not a good idea to stay in ketosis for more than a few weeks, since it's making your liver wor…

You also don't want to stay in it too long because your body will start eating muscle, not just fat.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by wrl »

ebbv wrote: post #31
fingerprinter wrote: post #14

I'm going to jump right into the idea of fasting for 6 days and the unfortunate reality that most people in our field(s) don't. 1. know how to lose weight (really) 2. know how to eat 3. know how to workout Here, if you want to try fasting, which I do recommend, give this a shot. http://www.leangains.com/ or do the Warrior diet (one huge meal a day). A 16/8 fast is great. Heck, I sometimes even do an eat-stop-eat way…

Your advice to workout hard and short instead of cardio is wrong. Working out at all is better than not working out. But cardio exercise (e.g. running and/or biking) for sustained periods of time will burn much more calories. And that's what weight loss is all about. Calories in vs. calories out. I speak from not only the obvious facts but also experience, I lost over 100lbs from January 2009 to July 2010 and got hea…

You are correct that sustained aerobic exercise burns more calories than an anaerobic activity such as weightlifting. The benefit of weightlifting in particular is that, by building more muscle, you are increasing your body's BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) because more muscles == more energy necessary to run them. This translates to your body burning more calories while at rest.
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