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Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by einhverfr »

tptacek wrote: post #32
dextorious wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"""Do you actually believe you're more likely to lose weight eating organic protein?""" You are more likely to remain healthy while losing weight eating organic protein.

Do you really believe that? Maybe the antibiotics in the chicken --- although truly healthy chicken is spectacularly expensive, and even products labeled "organic" can still be flooded with antibiotics "to prevent disease outbreaks" which are inevitable in factory farms. Other than antibiotics, I generally call BS on the health benefits of "organic" and "grass fed" protein. You should eat organic --- or, VERY prefera…

Fats are shown to be qualitatively different in animals which are afforded range space and fed their natural feed than which are fed in CAFO's.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by rudiger »

tptacek wrote: post #25
fingerprinter wrote: post #14

I'm going to jump right into the idea of fasting for 6 days and the unfortunate reality that most people in our field(s) don't. 1. know how to lose weight (really) 2. know how to eat 3. know how to workout Here, if you want to try fasting, which I do recommend, give this a shot. http://www.leangains.com/ or do the Warrior diet (one huge meal a day). A 16/8 fast is great. Heck, I sometimes even do an eat-stop-eat way…

I'm about as serious a high-quality protein advocate as probably exists in the leaderboard for this site (neither "organic" nor "grassfed" are particularly important adjectives for me, so much as "local" and "humane"), and I do not understand what this has to do with diet and weight loss. Do you actually believe you're more likely to lose weight eating organic protein?

Grass-fed beef is leaner than fattier corn-fed beef.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by ebbv »

z0r wrote: post #33
ebbv wrote: post #31

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Your advice to workout hard and short instead of cardio is wrong. Working out at all is better than not working out. But cardio exercise (e.g. running and/or biking) for sustained periods of time will burn much more calories. And that's what weight loss is all about. Calories in vs. calories out. I speak from not only the obvious facts but also experience, I lost over 100lbs from January 2009 to July 2010 and got hea…

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1526539 Summary: resistance training is most effective, then interval training (high intensity and lower intensity), and then steady state high intensity cardio training, and finally least effective steady state low intensity cardio training.

What a shock that a body building website would say that. I can't believe it. Let me ask Microsoft if I should use Linux for my servers or not, hold on BRB.

The reality is that an hour of cardio is going to burn many, many more calories than 15 minutes of lifting. Now, if you hate cardio and can't stand to do it for an hour, but you love lifting, then obviously you're better off lifting. But if you can learn to enjoy cardio, or if you want to do the workout that's the most effective for burning calories, you should be biking/running.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by gadders »

stevengg wrote: post #36
fingerprinter wrote: post #14

I'm going to jump right into the idea of fasting for 6 days and the unfortunate reality that most people in our field(s) don't. 1. know how to lose weight (really) 2. know how to eat 3. know how to workout Here, if you want to try fasting, which I do recommend, give this a shot. http://www.leangains.com/ or do the Warrior diet (one huge meal a day). A 16/8 fast is great. Heck, I sometimes even do an eat-stop-eat way…

mark rippetoe of starting strength fame did an AMA on r/fitness yesterday. http://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/n13d8/i_am_mark_rip...

Awesome. Thanks for the link!

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by tptacek »

rudiger wrote: post #42
tptacek wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm about as serious a high-quality protein advocate as probably exists in the leaderboard for this site (neither "organic" nor "grassfed" are particularly important adjectives for me, so much as "local" and "humane"), and I do not understand what this has to do with diet and weight loss. Do you actually believe you're more likely to lose weight eating organic protein?

Grass-fed beef is leaner than fattier corn-fed beef.

And? Higher-fat proteins create satiety faster. Eating more fat doesn't make you fat.

If it it's lean beef that you're after, specify "lean beef", not "grass fed beef". There are plenty of retail cuts on a corn-fed cow that are plenty lean. A corn-fed tri-tip is going to be less fatty than a grass-fed chuck. If you're aiming for lean protein, your cut selection is way more important than which cow the cut comes from.

(Incidentally: I eat almost all grass-fed beef these days, since thats what my butcher sources --- but unlike pig and chicken, for which the local versions are clearly superior --- I can go back and forth on whether corn-fed beef is better or worse than grass-fed. Grass-fed is tougher and always seems to have that aged beef funk, which is sometimes welcome and sometimes not.)

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by yummyfajitas »

fingerprinter wrote: post #14

I'm going to jump right into the idea of fasting for 6 days and the unfortunate reality that most people in our field(s) don't. 1. know how to lose weight (really) 2. know how to eat 3. know how to workout Here, if you want to try fasting, which I do recommend, give this a shot. http://www.leangains.com/ or do the Warrior diet (one huge meal a day). A 16/8 fast is great. Heck, I sometimes even do an eat-stop-eat way…

This is generally good advice, but avoiding carbs is unnecessary. There is basically no compelling evidence that avoiding carbs causes people to lose weight faster than other diets, and there is quite a bit of evidence that properly consumed carbs help muscle growth. Carbs before heavy weightlifting make sure your glycogen stores are replenished, i.e. you are more likely to hit your reps.

For some people, compliance with a low carb diet may be easier. I.e., it may take less willpower to stick to a low carb diet than a low fat diet. But that's the only benefit, and that benefit depends strongly on your personal tastes in food.

Making sure that calorie in calories out + sufficient protein is the thing to do to gain muscle. Everything else is small change, only worth thinking about if you are a bodybuilder or boxer.

The fact of the matter is that we were far thinner than today when we had an extremely high carb diet.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnpp.usd...

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by troystribling »

tptacek wrote: post #25
fingerprinter wrote: post #14

I'm going to jump right into the idea of fasting for 6 days and the unfortunate reality that most people in our field(s) don't. 1. know how to lose weight (really) 2. know how to eat 3. know how to workout Here, if you want to try fasting, which I do recommend, give this a shot. http://www.leangains.com/ or do the Warrior diet (one huge meal a day). A 16/8 fast is great. Heck, I sometimes even do an eat-stop-eat way…

I'm about as serious a high-quality protein advocate as probably exists in the leaderboard for this site (neither "organic" nor "grassfed" are particularly important adjectives for me, so much as "local" and "humane"), and I do not understand what this has to do with diet and weight loss. Do you actually believe you're more likely to lose weight eating organic protein?

Here is an article summarizing research on the nutrition benefits of grass feed vs. grain feed beef http://www.bulletproofexec.com/grass-fed-meat-part-1/

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by tptacek »

einhverfr wrote: post #41
tptacek wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really believe that? Maybe the antibiotics in the chicken --- although truly healthy chicken is spectacularly expensive, and even products labeled "organic" can still be flooded with antibiotics "to prevent disease outbreaks" which are inevitable in factory farms. Other than antibiotics, I generally call BS on the health benefits of "organic" and "grass fed" protein. You should eat organic --- or, VERY prefera…

Fats are shown to be qualitatively different in animals which are afforded range space and fed their natural feed than which are fed in CAFO's.

Uh huh. In what way meaningful to human health is the fat from conventional beef better for you than the fat from "organic" beef?

The fat in local protein is way, way better than factory-farmed meat. By which I mean, it tastes much better. The fat from the pork chop of a responsibly raised pig tastes like bacon; the fat from a supermarket pork chop tastes like melting plastic.

Buy local/humane protein. Just do it for real reasons.

Re: Six Days without Food: Hacking Your Mind to Make Do with Far Less

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Post by [deleted] »

einhverfr wrote: post #41
tptacek wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really believe that? Maybe the antibiotics in the chicken --- although truly healthy chicken is spectacularly expensive, and even products labeled "organic" can still be flooded with antibiotics "to prevent disease outbreaks" which are inevitable in factory farms. Other than antibiotics, I generally call BS on the health benefits of "organic" and "grass fed" protein. You should eat organic --- or, VERY prefera…

Fats are shown to be qualitatively different in animals which are afforded range space and fed their natural feed than which are fed in CAFO's.

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