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Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #21

It’s called Stripe Billing, not Stripe MDR. What a pointless exercise but I guess someone wi have some takeaways from this, not sure which one though.

what is MDR?

Merchant Discount Rate. Another (confusing) name for what you might know as "payment processing fee".

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/merchant-discount-rate....

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #9

I work at an HR/Payroll company with a phenomenal app that we put our blood, sweat, and tears into every single day. And every single day I clock in with Oracle Time and Labor. There's a legal reason for this and we do it for compliance. I'm guessing Stripe is in the same boat with this product despite its flaws.

I'm working on the iOS/WatchOS app(s) for a major bank, and fortunately of course most of our staff uses it; too - because of course we bank with the bank we work for. (There's tangible benefits to a staff account, even those who have accounts elsewhere I'm willing to bet still do their primary banking with us.)

I've actually had an instance or two over my four years there where I discovered a bug in our PROD/App Store version myself; simply from using the software enough.

It's really unfortunate that this isn't the case for a lot of dev shops. Dogfooding is incredibly important to QA.

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twilio is the same. They use Zoom & Slack internally, not their own video and chat offerings. Dogfooding is a good thing. You’d be surprised how few companies actually do it (which is terribly shocking).

This sounds terrible, it shows a lack of confidence in your own product, imagine if Google internally would use Zoom... I can tell you that devs that use their own product deliver better quality.

The sound quality and filtering on Zoom is noticeably better than on Meets.

Perhaps you also need to use the product that your competitors use to understand what you need to beat.

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #9

I work at an HR/Payroll company with a phenomenal app that we put our blood, sweat, and tears into every single day. And every single day I clock in with Oracle Time and Labor. There's a legal reason for this and we do it for compliance. I'm guessing Stripe is in the same boat with this product despite its flaws.

Twilio is the same. They use Zoom & Slack internally, not their own video and chat offerings. Dogfooding is a good thing. You’d be surprised how few companies actually do it (which is terribly shocking).

"Dogfooding is a good thing"

That gets repeated a lot but I have observed the opposite when you have a diversified company dogfooding an internal product that isn't strategic in their portfolio, or is targeted at a market segment that the company doesn't belong to. I have seen companies hamstring themselves by using a product that isn't the best offering for them or a poor technical fit, only because it is their own offering. Also, in the worst case, companies become develop tunnel vision in the market, because they don't regularly use the competition.

If you have a large, international software company targeting small to medium business customers in the US, dogfooding would be counterproductive. It would probably harm their strategic customer base by overcomplicating their product with features they don't need at the same time it slows the parent company down by using a product that's poor fit.

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the legal reason?

If the system happened to break in a way that was opportune for the employer but ripped off the employee, it's better to point fingers at Oracle than your own company.

So limiting liability.

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds terrible, it shows a lack of confidence in your own product, imagine if Google internally would use Zoom... I can tell you that devs that use their own product deliver better quality.

The sound quality and filtering on Zoom is noticeably better than on Meets. Perhaps you also need to use the product that your competitors use to understand what you need to beat.

For testing and strategy maybe not for day to day use.

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #9

I work at an HR/Payroll company with a phenomenal app that we put our blood, sweat, and tears into every single day. And every single day I clock in with Oracle Time and Labor. There's a legal reason for this and we do it for compliance. I'm guessing Stripe is in the same boat with this product despite its flaws.

Twilio is the same. They use Zoom & Slack internally, not their own video and chat offerings. Dogfooding is a good thing. You’d be surprised how few companies actually do it (which is terribly shocking).

In the case of GP he is saying they want to dogfood their product but cannot due to legal reasons.

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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post #9

I work at an HR/Payroll company with a phenomenal app that we put our blood, sweat, and tears into every single day. And every single day I clock in with Oracle Time and Labor. There's a legal reason for this and we do it for compliance. I'm guessing Stripe is in the same boat with this product despite its flaws.

Twilio is the same. They use Zoom & Slack internally, not their own video and chat offerings. Dogfooding is a good thing. You’d be surprised how few companies actually do it (which is terribly shocking).

It makes sense to me - if Twilio undergoes a massive outage, do you want them to be unable to communicate as they try to fix it? So they use Zoom and Slack.

Re: Why doesn't Stripe use Stripe Billing?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I see the files of an example case where something like that happened?

If it happened then one would claim that they have a legal onus. Conflict of interest is speculative about an unforeseen future.

I'm not familiar with that definition. On the other hand, the Department of Defense explicitly says it happens "if the particular matter will have a direct and predictable effect on that interest". Predictable being "a real, as opposed to speculative possibility, that the matter will affect the financial interest".

https://dodsoco.ogc.osd.mil/Conflicts-of-Interest/

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