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87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by pb7 »

Sirened wrote: post #601
rootusrootus wrote: post #334

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> My $340 Android works better than a $1000 iPhone. You trolling? I've not had any of the random problems with my iPhone that you describe. And I feel like by now HN users, regardless of ideology, are well aware that the CPU throttling with a degraded battery was a sensible choice to prevent reboots, but was terribly handled and became a PR disaster.

HN has the absolute worst combo of people who are very technical but without the domain expertise to actually understand the limits of what they know. Lots of software people making wild ass conjectures about semiconductors and CPU architecture...

I’ll one up you. I contend people here are simply average even in their domain of expertise, let alone anything outside of it. It’s not a special hideout for geniuses, it’s a generic forum not unlike Reddit. The only reason it appears the way that it does is via selective moderation.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by ericpauley »

asciimov wrote: post #129

Best things about the iPhone: - long term support - can expect a new device to get 5-6 years of Apple Updates - AppleCare - better build quality than cheap android devices - Reasonable expectation that required software will support it - Not having to listen to a teen complain about what their friends have that they don't - Finally, Updates, APPLE SUPPORTED UPDATES! - I'm really salty that my android phones had to be…

> long term support - can expect a new device to get 5-6 years of Apple Updates

It’s actually even better than that. The iPhone 5s is still receiving security updates (albeit to iOS 12) 9 years later.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by nichos »

johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #320
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

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Your reading is not accurate, and it's very antidotal.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by bloomark »

nilsleep wrote: post #469
asciimov wrote: post #129

Best things about the iPhone: - long term support - can expect a new device to get 5-6 years of Apple Updates - AppleCare - better build quality than cheap android devices - Reasonable expectation that required software will support it - Not having to listen to a teen complain about what their friends have that they don't - Finally, Updates, APPLE SUPPORTED UPDATES! - I'm really salty that my android phones had to be…

You forgot three very important points: - Privacy. Apple didn't built their business on milking people's data unlike google and so many others. - Security. Among many other factors the walled garden does provide a higher degree of security compared to Android. - Performance. Not only iPhones completely destroy Android in terms of performance and optimisation but the fact they are so performant make them great long te…

> - Privacy. Apple didn't built their business on milking people's data unlike google and so many others.

Is this still true? :(

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by devcat »

lostmsu wrote: post #354
bink wrote: post #220

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They had a choice between slowing the device or providing a substandard user experience when the old battery couldn't keep up and the phone shut down. I think there are plenty of reasons to criticize Apple but I have no idea why people have latched onto this obviously false narrative.

Or they could have recalled faulty devices, you know. To fix them and provide the experience they promised originally.

That’s called replacing your battery. All phone batteries degrade and start underperforming over the years. What Apple did only affects those people with years old underperforming batteries.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by viraptor »

conductr wrote: post #513
alvarezbjm-hn wrote: post #409

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The social rejection is a result of teens being teens, as pointed out. Adults would use another more inclusive tool, like whatsapp, email, discord, rss, etc.

I and most adults I know have never used those apps. We’re also on our ~15th iphone

Ok, so you're likely either not bothered by the messaging differences or not don't experience them.

Now take a moment to imagine someone tries to tell you that your messaging system makes you not desirable in a group. What do you do as an adult? Spend extra money to comply with their ideas, or tell them to either use alternatives, or get over it? Does the fact you've never used those apps even factor into the decision?

For context, in many places outside of the us the question is simply "which app do you use" and then you use that like an adult that you are.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by D13Fd »

fyvhbhn wrote: post #560
D13Fd wrote: post #542

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Then just buy an iPhone, or get over it? You're acting as if Android vs. iPhone is an immutable part of a child's identity. It's not. You can get a totally workable used iPhone cheap, because they keep working for so long. It's not like you need a lot of horsepower for texting. My kids take a beat up 8-year-old iPhone 6 out when they go to sleepovers and things. It still works fine.

The US is straight out of a dystopia from an European perspective.

iPhone = Dystopia?

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by pabs3 »

saxonww wrote: post #521
redavni wrote: post #492

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Technically yes, Realistically there isn't a need. The iMessage feature set has been mostly matched by RCS on Android. Apple does not want compatible messaging.

I don't think it's this simple. RCS is implemented by carriers and is a feature of mobile service like SMS. It has a qualification/accreditation process. iMessage is an internet service. If I were Apple, I would not budge. I haven't used iMessage, so I don't know how it behaves, but my own personal RCS experience has not been good. I am on Google Fi and make heavy use of Google Messages and specifically their web app…

I read that carriers can't be bothered running RCS servers, so Google provides those for Android devices.

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by dang »

fyvhbhn wrote: post #560
D13Fd wrote: post #542

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Then just buy an iPhone, or get over it? You're acting as if Android vs. iPhone is an immutable part of a child's identity. It's not. You can get a totally workable used iPhone cheap, because they keep working for so long. It's not like you need a lot of horsepower for texting. My kids take a beat up 8-year-old iPhone 6 out when they go to sleepovers and things. It still works fine.

The US is straight out of a dystopia from an European perspective.

Nationalistic flamewar, and any flamewar, is not ok on HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

You've been breaking the site guidelines repeatedly, including elsewhere in this thread. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

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