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Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Intel just received money from the US government and they swiftly started laying off American workers. The money is supposed to be for the new Ohio plant and 3000 jobs, but now we’re losing thousands of jobs up front?

huh… its been so long since I’ve found this kind of thing controversial

Just had a little flashback to 2008 me

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft ignoring AMD in their latest Surface lineup is a hint for the people looking for answers I think the entire new surface line-up is a giant conspiracy. The Surface Pro 9 5G has a Qualcomm 8cx Gen 3 with some tweaks called the SQ3. It does not match the performance of 12 Gen intel in a 15w power envelope, which is important because the Surface Pro 9 non-5G (intel) uses an i5-1235u, a 15w chip. But the last…

> the now two year old Apple M1 still smokes every single chip I just mentioned, all in a fanless iPad Air Well yes, but then you have to use macOS and the locked down close ecosystem that is Apple. That's not really something they're directly competing against.

Tell me again how MacOS is more locked down than Windows and why most people should care?

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

#323

Intel just received money from the US government and they swiftly started laying off American workers. The money is supposed to be for the new Ohio plant and 3000 jobs, but now we’re losing thousands of jobs up front?

20% is in sales and marketing. How would you feel if taxpayer money was going yo marketing? Hopefully the money is going toward equipment and research. Maybe they don’t need the people.

It is not 20% of the Job Cuts are in Sales and Marketing, which is what your sentence could implied. But up to 20% of Sales and Marketing department being cut, which represent majority of the 1000s of job cuts.

I am pretty sure there are lots of bloats at Intel that requires trimming down.

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Wait. Intel and AMD are both headquartered in Santa Clara, CA?

Yup. Nvidia is also based in Santa Clara.

AMD for a long time had been headquartered in Sunnyvale, CA, but they moved just a few years ago. They are now building homes at the former AMD site.

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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PCs? Gamers (and non-Mac high-end desktop performance users) would seem to be a pretty small slice of the pie these days. I have a high-end current M1 laptop but I do a lot of my work on a couple of 7 year old Intel-based desktop/laptop machines which are perfectly fine although they're about to go out of OS support. (Though I'll probably use them for a few more years anyway.) I remember when you wanted a new PC with…

It's worth noting that Intel has been stuck at a single tick in the processor cycle for... 7-8 years now? Interestingly, Mac sales are up 40% recently. So I guess a lot of people actually do care -- they just want in on the best laptop processors out there, which are decidedly not offered by Intel. With no good Windows support for ARM, I'm curious what trends we'll see over the next few years for PCs. Will they langu…

But outside of Apple, ARM processors aren’t really that great

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Hire Jim Keller back and build the next thing instead of milking the same customers. The company developing a competent alternative to the M1/M2 or nvidia GPU is going to have a good business. Seems to me that Intel is alway in this cycle of greatness and then crash while sitting on their laurels. It seem they need to have a fire under their buts to make the right decisions.

Intel’s newest chips have efficiency cores alongside performance cores. They are actually somewhat competitive to M1 now

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know a lot of the details, but everything I've heard over the last couple of years indicated that AMD was absolutely crushing Intel. A recent laptop I purchased, as well as the last desktop I put together (~2 years ago) each have Ryzen chips. I forget the details but in addition to performance issues, didn't Intel CPUs also have some major security vulnerabilities? And was it that they were related to instruc…

AMD also had alot of those major bugs, but it wasn't reported as much since the original papers all targeted intel CPU's since they are the "standard", and then a couple months later someone would do it for AMD but it was old news.

AMD's CPUs, including the latest Ryzen and Epyc processors, are immune to:

    Meltdown (Spectre v3)
    Spectre v3a
    LazyFPU
    TLBleed
    Spectre v1.2
    L1TF/Foreshadow
    SPOILER
    SpectreRSB
    MDS attacks (ZombieLoad, Fallout, RIDL)
    SWAPGS
https://www.tomshardware.com/features/intel-amd-most-secure-...

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Intel just received money from the US government and they swiftly started laying off American workers. The money is supposed to be for the new Ohio plant and 3000 jobs, but now we’re losing thousands of jobs up front?

Uh, yeah, you didn't realise it was a scam when all the politicians trying to get that bill passed had investments in the companies getting the money?

They are using that money to build a chip plant not to subsidize 3000 workers.

Re: Intel plans thousands of job cuts in face of PC slowdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh, yeah, you didn't realise it was a scam when all the politicians trying to get that bill passed had investments in the companies getting the money?

The US Govt regularly robs the tax paying people to give kickbacks to their corporate allies. It's just business as usual

The US needs a chip fabrication factory. The money is being used to build it. This has no relevance to the the 3000 workers who were laid off
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