Green bubble bullying is worrying.
Interesting to see how widespread this is outside of US. I guess it's heavily correlates with iPhone user share.
In where I'm from most peers adopted Telegram in the past 5 years.
87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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Yeah, I had to google it too: "If you see a green message bubble instead of a blue one, then that message was sent using MMS/SMS instead of iMessage. There are several reasons for this: The person that you sent the message to doesn't have an Apple device. iMessage is turned off on your device or on your recipient's device." So apparently iPhone users see text messages from us Android users in a green bubble instead o…
it's not color it's functionality. a single non-iOS user being added to the group breaks the group texting behavior for the entire group
This sound horrible. What a bullying tactic from Apple.
Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
#413I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…
What 100000 choices?
There are basically 6 Android phones. Of which only one matters - the Samsung Galaxy in it's 2 biggest sizes.
So basically you need to pick between 2 Samsung phones, the major difference being size.
Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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Given the iPhone's marketshare, is it RCS really the industry standard?
Android is ~72% of the global market: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile So, yes.
The month-day-year format is the standard for 4.23% of the global population, but it's the default in most IT systems, including every globally-deployed cloud system I have ever used.
What's your point?
Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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Pixels have unusually high rates of hardware and software problems over time. The reliability isn't there. The current issue of the month is random failure to call emergency services. If you randomly experience this problem, you could call 911 over and over, dozens of times, without success. It also doesn't matter if you have 4/4 bars. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375 https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel…
I don't know why you're being downvoted. They most certainly have had historically poor build quality. My Pixel 2 began boot looping after a couple of years of use and apparently that was motherboard quality issue that had been around since the Nexus line. I got a replacement and it happened again after another few months. Google "Pixel 2 bootloop" and you'll find thousands of threads from people with this issue. Tha…
Because of the insistence on anecdotes rather than actual industry reports to back up the claim. Even your claim is your personal anecdote. But when you dive into actual industry repair reports, Pixels do not (at least in the ones I've looked at) stand up in terms of being "historically poor quality". For every anecdote of someone having an issue, there are a large majority that just use their phone day in and day out without a problem. And of course, there's also that person that has to point out that their Pixel is working just fine in response to the person with an issue.
I'm not trying to dismiss the issues Google has had. Just to put it in context that they get a lot of press about the issues they do have, and so there becomes an impression that it's historically bad when the actual numbers do not seem to show that to be the case. (Also, if anyone provides links to 2021 or newer reports, I'd be happy to revise my opinion here based on new data, if it shows that I'm no longer correct, as it's been a bit since the last report I saw.)
Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
#416What I don't see discussed in here is why we should care what phone teens, particularly, have. Teen preferences are largely built on what's popular right now; it's not as though I'm still wearing untied high-tops and carrying a boom box. Do we have any evidence that this particular early preference carries on to adult life, when it's they who are making the purchase with money they have earned? Do we think teen technology preferences have influence on other age groups?
In short: What's the point here?
Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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What are you talking about? No you can't. If you're talking about an unlocked smartphone that you can install apps on, there is absolutely no such thing as a new Android phone for $20 that any American consumer can buy. The Samsung Galaxy A03s is Samsung's cheapest, it's considered "ultra-budget", and it costs $160. The Moto G Pure, Motorola's cheapest, is also $160. (Edit in response to comments: yes if you buy a lo…
On the other-hand, plenty of people will buy a locked phone direct from a carrier. The Moto G you mentioned only costs $35 from tracfone. You can't change carriers, but you still can install arbitrary apps.
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Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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That is why I'm specifically advocating for us calling them out on it - that makes it damaging to them.
Here’s a crazy idea. Why not fix the problem at the source? Address the entitled behaviour of teenagers.
You mean the behaviour that ancient civilizations already used to complain about? I'd argue changing one UI color would be an easier first step.
Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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That is why I'm specifically advocating for us calling them out on it - that makes it damaging to them.
Here’s a crazy idea. Why not fix the problem at the source? Address the entitled behaviour of teenagers.
If you want to fix teenage rebellion and cliquishness I applaud your efforts. I certainly personally suffered from bullying when I was a teenager over my clothes and haircut and pretty much every other facet of my person so if you can come up with a way for no one to ever endure it again I'd celebrate your achievement. Humanity hasn't managed to impart real empathy on teenagers in thousands of years of existence - we have accounts of rebellious teens from Rome so I assume it's not an easy fix.
So, maybe instead of focusing on bullying we can just focus on punishing companies that profit from bullying.
Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone
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> I think people here take issue with the walled garden model of an intra-device comm protocol, not the price point GGP specified ostracizing by Apple of those "who can't afford to carry around luxury phones." Now you are suggesting that Apple excludes communication from non-Apple customers by using an "intra-device comm protocol," which I believe most refer to as iMessage. I'm pretty sure it was conceived to save th…
Let's put it this way: I am largely on board with your line of reasoning, in so much that you're forcing people to make up their mind on what they're really upset about and what the root problems are. :-) For myself and my own grievances, I'm not a fan of comm protocols that don't allow an open market of clients and servers to exist and to interoperate. I much prefer using the ones that do, and so I do a lot of my gr…
I think you have a nice intentionally harmless approach to this, but I'm still not sure how iMessage is exclusive of other protocols rather than conveniently saving the users from cell providers' charges for SMS and MMS when possible. iMessage still supports SMS and MMS, and it only prioritizes its iMessage protocol when messaging other Apple device users. I don't use iMessage and never have, but my understanding is it communicates to Android users, other smartphones and even dumbphones though the cell providers' SMS and MMS services. Seems like the only ones that should have any complaint here are cell providers for being undermined and cut out of their instant messaging revenues.