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Absolutely not, it should be $1BN for every year InforWars has been in operation.
Do you understand that the amount of the damages has zero practical bearing past a number much smaller than $1B?
I only wish more generational bankruptcy for him with everything he has caused.
While nothing can bring back their children, siblings, or classmates, one hopes (but doesn't expect) that this will help consign a particularly vile and repugnant conspiracy theory to the dustbin of polite discourse.
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He caused his fans to harass families of murdered children for years, several had to move, some multiple times. All the while Alex Jones was raking in millions in cash off it.
shouldn’t the harassers be tried ?
Alex Jones is directly inciting people to go harass the plaintiffs so he bears liability for his actions.
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He caused his fans to harass families of murdered children for years, several had to move, some multiple times. All the while Alex Jones was raking in millions in cash off it.
shouldn’t the harassers be tried ?
Their actions come closer to criminal. Alex Jones isn't being criminally investigated; this is all civil.
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In the context of needed a specific outcome in finite time, a legal process can never be certain of anything. We depend on process like juries to come to a good enough conclusion.
That's where the phrase "beyond a reasonable doubt" comes in though, and I don't believe there was any way that was met here.
It has no bearing on a civil defamation suit, where the general burden is merely “preponderance of the evidence” (i.e., given what evidence each side has presented, what the jury finds more likely to be true.)
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As someone who's been closely following the Infowars/Free Speech Systems trials (watched all the depos, trial footage, etc.), all I can say is that I'm glad these families are finally getting justice. Even though I'm sure it'll be tied up in appeals for awhile (and reduced on appeal), hopefully it'll prevent future harassment campaigns against families when tragedies occur. And before anyone says "but why wasn't Jone…
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One of the lawyers made in the previous case what I consider an interesting argument: Alex Jones claimed under oath that his show reaches (off the top of my head) about a hundred million people. So the lawyer argued that Alex Jones should pay $1 for every person who heard him lie about Sandy Hook. By this measure, if I intentionally harass someone on Twitter I'd have to pay the victim about $50 (on a good day). Since…
If those were the reasonable standards, every media-company would be broke. I'd argue traditional media reaches many more people and the impact of intentional lies is that much greater.
Media is constantly being sued for defamation. The difficult part is showing they had evidence they were lying. That was overwhelming in these cases, which is what makes them unique.
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