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iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by mplewis »

pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

People like devices with high-quality, long-lasting hardware. They like their phones to be secure and to receive OS updates from the vendors for their entire planned usable life. They want excellent cameras. They want their phone to perform well and just work.

Under these conditions, why would you ever buy an Android?

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by k4rli »

Spivak wrote: post #9
kcb wrote: post #7

Yea that's what happens when Apple teams up with teens to bully anyone without an iPhone.

It really does suck to be in group chats with Android users, pictures get downsized, "Person loved 'message'", voice memos don't work, you can't see people's dnd status, no deliver quietly, no typing indicators or read receipts. You can't airdrop to them, or share iCloud notes, or contribute to shared photo albums. Facetime is far and away the best video calling experience that exists. Android phones just aren't good…

Android not being compatible with completely different phone's using mainly closed-source proprietary software.. It's not at all reasonable to expect other phone brands to support Facetime, iCloud, or whatever other service they have.

This entire comment is headboggling, amazing how one can be so closeminded that they only see value in Apple.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by k4rli »

anotherrandom wrote: post #21
Spivak wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It really does suck to be in group chats with Android users, pictures get downsized, "Person loved 'message'", voice memos don't work, you can't see people's dnd status, no deliver quietly, no typing indicators or read receipts. You can't airdrop to them, or share iCloud notes, or contribute to shared photo albums. Facetime is far and away the best video calling experience that exists. Android phones just aren't good…

I thought the pictures being downsized was due to compression to more easily go through SMS whereas iMessage is an internet-based chat, not just because "Android bad"

His entire "argument" was that iOS is better because it uses a proprietary internet chat while Android cannot use the same service.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by GoToRO »

pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

Apple is a very local company, mostly US. The phone is not better, it's just better suited to that population.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by THENATHE »

GoToRO wrote: post #54
pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

Apple is a very local company, mostly US. The phone is not better, it's just better suited to that population.

The phone is absolutely better. Better battery, nicer looking screen, more solid feel, faster processor, better game performance, better software integration (if you don’t care about customization).

The only real downside to someone that isn’t a power user is price, and even power users can tweak iOS enough for nearly any use case. An example is that you can currently sideload a virtual machine app from altstore that can literally run Linux with full USBC (or lightning to USB) pass through.

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Post by THENATHE »

theptip wrote: post #24
GeekyBear wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The problem with chat experience is that it's really, truly not Android's fault, it's Apple's. Apple forced Google to screw up it's messaging strategy for all these years? >Google has been unable to field a stable, competitive messaging platform for years and has thoroughly lost the messaging war to products with a long-term strategy. At least some divisions inside the company are waking up to how damaging this is…

The article you link mentions Google asking Apple to use RCS, which is the industry standard for messaging interop these days, not SMS. Apple has so far declined, so nobody can function in their Messages app.

And yet it refuses to actually open source RCS. Imagine if they could add RCS fallback to signal!

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by tarasglek »

pagthem wrote: post #46

I never understood why people would pay so much more for a phone with similar functionality as an androidd phone. I'm not saying iphones don't look and feel more premium but the price premium just doesn't make sense to me.

I thought so too, but then I got a cheap return iphone and was blown away.

I now help all my friends buy cheap iphones for about $150/phone. They are either openbox or refurbished by apple, still under apple warranty. Currently iphone 11 64gb is that sweet spot.

Cpu is still faster than most modern androids. Nvme ssd doesn't wear out as cheap emmc on androids. Phone receives way better software tuning than any android because apple iterates slower.

And best part: phone can be serviced on the cheap in almost any mall in the world. Everyone got spare screens, batteries,cases sell in dollar store.

I get Latest ios releases. I was using pixels before and when they broke, esp during travel, it was a very uneconomical proposition.

Only thing I miss is termux and gcam.

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by THENATHE »

i67vw3 wrote: post #25
delta_p_delta_x wrote: post #12

Among *American teens

In recent years/months I too have seen teen (youngsters) floating around their Iphones, half way around the world. The numbers have increased considerably around 10% in teens from 1% few years back. They mainly buy it as iphone is considered 'Posh', a sign of your class. There is no way for them to use imessage as everyone uses Whatsapp, no way to use facetime as everyone uses Whatsapp Call and for these buyers no wa…

It’s funny because literally the only reason WhatsApp caught on was because companies were gouging the fuck out of SMS costs. If every country did unlimited free talk and text, WhatsApp would be “what? Haven’t heard of that app” instead of the number one messaging app in Latin America

Re: iPhone Ownership Among U.S. Teens Hits 87%

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Post by zaik »

GeekyBear wrote: post #42
GeekyBear wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>RCS, which is the industry standard The article I linked to points out that RCS, as used by Google today, is a proprietary closed source fork of RCS that Google has refused to create a public API for. >Google's version of RCS—the one promoted on the website with Google-exclusive features like optional encryption—is definitely proprietary, by the way. If this is supposed to be a standard, there's no way for a third-p…

Everyone needs search, and it's unfair that Google has spent over a decade creating a better search engine than its competitors, so Google should be forced to open source their search algorithms. Is this the argument you guys are seriously making? The solution for a competitor having a better product than you is to pick a single strategy and keep iterating on whatever it is you build, instead of abandoning one produc…

Search is not something that requires interoperability. I can use DDG without any of my friends using it.
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