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Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by nullc »

shadowgovt wrote: post #58
ShamelessC wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn, Emad seems sort of clueless? Hard rules about software piracy like that feel very 90's and totally unnecessary. Just avoid explicitly condoning any projects and move past it! It will be old news in like 2 weeks at the current rate of things.

Given the dude spent half a million dollars on training SD, I wouldn't be surprised if even though he chose to open-source the trained model, he has strong opinions on whether people should have the right to choose to open-source such things vs. having third-party crackers breach their systems and publish for them.

Perhaps, but the model weights themselves are currently understood to be uncopyrightable, and it's pretty inconceivable that the model could become copyrightable without becoming a derivative work of the training data.

Unless these AI companies want google and facebook to be literally the only companies in the world that can train large scale machine learning (by using their TOS to get licenses from their users) they should tread carefully.

In this particular case the leaked code apparently exposed that the proprietary codebase was also using the OSS developer's work without attribution.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by numpad0 »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #48
d23 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm having difficulty seeing how this comment relates to the post.

It's relevant because the moderator in the OP is a teenager and I question if kids should be handed the reigns to moderate like this no questions asked.

They should be notified. He was not, from his claims.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by kache_ »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

reddit is awful this is why i prefer 4ch

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by yoz-y »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

TBH in the 90's most of forums I visited were also moderated by teenagers. If you build your community then you should be able to moderate it, as simple as that.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by wsb_mod2 »

pnathan wrote: post #41

reddit mod management is a bit haywire. I am mod at a rather largish subreddit (> 750K subs/readers), and despite the top mod being gone from the subreddit for something like 6? years now and virtually inactive on reddit, I can't get him removed. I've gone through channels but, sigh.

When did you go through the process?

Reddit recently updated its top mod removal process (recently as in 5 days ago) and dramatically weakened requirements for removing top mods.

More information on that here: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/xwim7v/updates_to_...

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by bitlax »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/r45a5n/here_is_...

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by sam1r »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

>>> In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

Couldn’t one say the same about hacker news? Great quality content, from possibly anonymous profiles.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by aliqot »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #74
silisili wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Way worse than FB, I'd argue. I used to think Reddit users skewed too heavily in certain ways, and didn't make sense. One day, using some tool (removeddit, reveddit, etc), I noticed how many posts and comments were removed by moderators - things that went against the skew. It's one of the reasons places like r/politics became such an echo chamber dumpster fire.

Totally agree with you but it's nowhere near how bad facebook is. At least on reddit, opinions aren't illegal or approved by how Zucc and team see fit. Facebook is extremely ban happy and you can do absolutely nothing about it. On reddit, at the very least you can create your own sub or join subs where people won't ban you for whatever you have to say.

> opinions aren't illegal

The correct opinions aren't illegal. Reddit is not a bastion of free speech [0].

[0] - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/14/reddit-ce...

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by caconym_ »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #81
c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

> In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances. The discourse in many subreddits is invisibly dictated by the moderators. It's not obvious when you browse posts because everything is organically coming from random people. However, moderators can entirely shape the conversation by only allowing posts that say what they want. In other words: The…

100%. The reality of moderation on Reddit is absolutely horrifying, like flipping over a rock and finding a pile of decomposing rat carcasses underneath. It's unbelievable, for instance, how often comments going against the grain are "shadow removed".

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by bawolff »

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

I'd rather have unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers (read: people who care) than a faceless souless corporate bureaucracy.

However both suck in very real but different ways.

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