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How much?
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I mean hopefully he's paid well? Making salary a private issue only hurts people in my opinion.
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#62When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.
Way worse than FB, I'd argue.
I used to think Reddit users skewed too heavily in certain ways, and didn't make sense. One day, using some tool (removeddit, reveddit, etc), I noticed how many posts and comments were removed by moderators - things that went against the skew.
It's one of the reasons places like r/politics became such an echo chamber dumpster fire.
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#64So, to summarize: Both Reddit and Discord force transfered seemingly officially named communities to the trademark owning entity. That sucks, but it’s also something that social media companies have been doing 10 times a week since forever. Is there something special about this instance that makes it news?
Mostly that yet another online community is shocked to learn that they thought they were living in a house they'd invested their own sweat equity into building when the whole time, they were really living in a shantytown parked in a spare corner of some corporation's city.
If it ain't your computer (and if no money even changed hands), it ain't your property.
Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story
#65When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.
And in other ways, reddit has much better moderation than either Twitter or Facebook
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It's relevant because the moderator in the OP is a teenager and I question if kids should be handed the reigns to moderate like this no questions asked.
If nobody is being harmed, why not. It's unpaid management experience. Giving kids responsibilities drives maturity.
Add /s or people will not understand
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Individual Discord communities are, and always have been, called "servers", despite the fact that they are entirely logical/digital entities and have no particular correspondence with actual physical servers (the way IRC servers do).
Is this a distinction without a difference? Meaning, it seems eminently reasonable if I was 16, started a Disney Discord, got a verified badge for it, then Disney pointed out the delicacies of Discord handing the Official Disney Discord to a minor, it seems to be a reasonable compromise to make the official Disney Discord officially Disney's, and allow the 16 year old to still have the secret chats, etc.
There's difference, physical ownership of the server would mean no company would be able to transfer ownership with a click of a mouse.
Even if transfer of rights looks reasonable, it's better to live in a world where such transfer is made through law and not through company managers will.
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That drama is most likely the catalyst of the current drama. (i.e. StabilityAI getting control of the subreddit to control the NAI leak/discourage use of the AUTOMATIC1111 UI) Which violates a number of Reddit's conflict of interest rules for moderators.
> Which violates a number of Reddit's conflict of interest rules for moderators. Those don't exist. There is something called the "Reddiquette" which is by the community and completely informal. Subreddits owned by companies is the new normal and if you look at games, most reddit users these days even prefer it to community-run ones. Not uncommon to have two subreddits at a launch of a game and the unofficial one wil…
> most reddit users these days even prefer it to community-run ones. Not uncommon to have two subreddits at a launch of a game and the unofficial one will always "lose".
Games often link to the "official" reddit community from inside the game, so no surprise that traffic will be driven there
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Yup, @dang is paid. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23810452
How much?
Why do you want to know? I can't imagine how knowing that answer is going to make anything better for anyone here. Are you a mod of a similar service and need something to negotiate with? Even as a negotiating datapoint, it's only valuable if YC would hire you to moderate (which I doubt) and you can use that as leverage.
If it was public, then random users might demand more of dang, thinking that his salary justifies it.
Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story
#70Unbelievable behavior from SD. The subreddit is currently an unmoderated mess, illustrating they have no clue how to run the community. I am unsurprised at Discord's behavior, handing over a server like that. They have essentially been hostile when not silent to us at WSB with our 600K user server. Reddit has an opportunity to do better here. Hand back control of r/StableDiffusion back to OP. Steve Huffman alluded to…
OP handed over the subreddit willingly and did not say they wanted it back... There really isn't a big deal other than supposed possible censorship and conflict of interest, but AFAIK there's been no hate threads censored anyway. The only thing "censored" was auto's webUI being removed from the stickied guide and the illegal novelAI leak torrent being removed.
There's nothing to indicate they wanted to leave. They are still a mod there (without full perms).
They handed over the subreddit under a promise that was immediately broken by the other party. So yes, I suppose you could say they handed it over willingly, but they did so about as willingly as handing money over to an advance-fee scam.
However, this is largely irrelevant because what Reddit truly cares about (insofar as community management) is stability, and I think it's fair to say the community is very unstable right now, and is unlikely regain that stability.