/r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story • Hacker News Board

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by Someone1234 » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:05 PM UTC

yellow_lead wrote: post #13

TekMol wrote: post #12

I recently posted on a subreddit that has the name of a big company. The post became popular. I could not believe my eyes, when some hours later, the post was edited. I have never seen that before. Mods cannot edit users posts, right? Do some companies have superpowers on their sub, or did they reach out to Reddit to change the post?

On Reddit, supposedly only admins can edit posts. You should name and shame the company/sub

Unless it is a very recent change, that is always been true and admins don't even typically edit comments/submissions (with one very famous and controversial exception[0]). Mods can apply flair I believe though.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/5frg1n/tifu_...

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by baxtr » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:06 PM UTC

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

Yeah, because they want to save on mod costs, I guess. Related to that: I am wondering, does @dang get a monthly paycheck for his incredible work?

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by nsilvestri » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:06 PM UTC

TekMol wrote: post #12

I recently posted on a subreddit that has the name of a big company. The post became popular. I could not believe my eyes, when some hours later, the post was edited. I have never seen that before. Mods cannot edit users posts, right? Do some companies have superpowers on their sub, or did they reach out to Reddit to change the post?

Mods cannot edit posts, only admins. In my experience, however, reddit generally opts to fully remove any posts that break terms of service or guidelines. I've never seen a partial edit of another user's post by an admin with one drama-filled exception.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by danaris » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

superkuh wrote: post #17

> So Discord can just take servers from people and give them away to corporations without asking? He never had a "server". Just like no one has a Facebook "server". Discord is a corporation not a person. Communities run by corporate services are different than servers run by human persons. You give up everything when you don't actually host your own server(s) for communicating with your community.

Individual Discord communities are, and always have been, called "servers", despite the fact that they are entirely logical/digital entities and have no particular correspondence with actual physical servers (the way IRC servers do).

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by wsb_mod » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:09 PM UTC

Unbelievable behavior from SD. The subreddit is currently an unmoderated mess, illustrating they have no clue how to run the community.

I am unsurprised at Discord's behavior, handing over a server like that. They have essentially been hostile when not silent to us at WSB with our 600K user server.

Reddit has an opportunity to do better here. Hand back control of r/StableDiffusion back to OP.

Steve Huffman alluded to the disaster that is sub transitions in the recent Mod Summit. If someone at Reddit is reading this, this is your opportunity to do better.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by shadowgovt » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:09 PM UTC

twobitshifter wrote: post #15

ryzvonusef wrote: post #5

https://old.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/xzdkio/stab... apparently, there is a separate drama about hacking at SD and accusations of ownership of code.

Is NAI related to SD in any way?

Different trained model, which was extracted from its creator via unauthorized system access and is illicitly available via BitTorrent. The drama appears to have started because an open-source developer who wrote a web frontend to control SD adapted that frontend to control the hacked model also, which has offended SD's CEO (because of the general principle of "Don't help software pirates").

The additional drama includes that said open-source author has looked at the leaked code and concluded that it stole some of his open source work in the way it tunes text parameters.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by wsb_mod2 » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:09 PM UTC

baxtr wrote: post #22

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

Yeah, because they want to save on mod costs, I guess. Related to that: I am wondering, does @dang get a monthly paycheck for his incredible work?

Yup, @dang is paid.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23810452

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by saghm » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:10 PM UTC

baxtr wrote: post #22

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

Yeah, because they want to save on mod costs, I guess. Related to that: I am wondering, does @dang get a monthly paycheck for his incredible work?

I'm pretty sure the HN moderators do it as a job and not just as a hobby. I remember reading this[1] a few years back when it came out, and from a quick scan it seems to support this, although it's possible in my skimming I might have misread.

[1]: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/th...

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by refulgentis » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:12 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #24

superkuh wrote: post #17

> So Discord can just take servers from people and give them away to corporations without asking? He never had a "server". Just like no one has a Facebook "server". Discord is a corporation not a person. Communities run by corporate services are different than servers run by human persons. You give up everything when you don't actually host your own server(s) for communicating with your community.

Individual Discord communities are, and always have been, called "servers", despite the fact that they are entirely logical/digital entities and have no particular correspondence with actual physical servers (the way IRC servers do).

Is this a distinction without a difference?

Meaning, it seems eminently reasonable if I was 16, started a Disney Discord, got a verified badge for it, then Disney pointed out the delicacies of Discord handing the Official Disney Discord to a minor, it seems to be a reasonable compromise to make the official Disney Discord officially Disney's, and allow the 16 year old to still have the secret chats, etc.

Re: /r/StableDiffusion – Mod here – My side of the story

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Post by MrsPeaches » Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 5:12 PM UTC

baxtr wrote: post #22

c7DJTLrn wrote: post #14

When you realise Reddit is moderated by unpaid megalomaniacs and teenagers, everything starts to fall into place. In some ways Reddit is worse than Facebook because it is influenced by anonymous entities with zero checks and balances.

Yeah, because they want to save on mod costs, I guess. Related to that: I am wondering, does @dang get a monthly paycheck for his incredible work?

Article about him here: https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/th...