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Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’

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Re: Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’

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Post by bmau5 »

pnw wrote: post #32
bmau5 wrote: post #29

The evolutionary adaptations oral bacteria have developed to coexist are fascinating. Another example is the known gum disease-causing species, P. gingivalis, can suppress our adaptive immunity [1]. This finding underscores the importance of taking preventative approaches to prevent attachment of biofilm producers (and why daily hygiene is so important), and finding more approaches to biofilm destabilization, like in…

Interesting company! Are there any commercial oral care products with arginine in them? What’s your opinion on the toothpaste with lysine supplements and the oral probiotics for gum care?

Thank you! There are some commercial toothpastes (like Tom's of Maine [1]) and chews (like BasicBites [2]) that contain arginine. I expect we'll see it incorporated in more products soon.

RE: oral probiotics, there is some promising evidence of oral probiotics in improving oral health. We wrote a guide [3] based on the available research that might be helpful.

For lysine, we're still looking into the evidence, but we're excited to see more innovation and research into oral care product ingredients that work with the oral microbiome.

[1] https://www.tomsofmaine.com/our-promise/ingredients/arginine...

[2] https://www.basicbites.com/

[3] https://www.bristlehealth.com/post/a-guide-to-oral-probiotic...

Re: Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’

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Post by bmau5 »

sooheon wrote: post #30
bmau5 wrote: post #29

The evolutionary adaptations oral bacteria have developed to coexist are fascinating. Another example is the known gum disease-causing species, P. gingivalis, can suppress our adaptive immunity [1]. This finding underscores the importance of taking preventative approaches to prevent attachment of biofilm producers (and why daily hygiene is so important), and finding more approaches to biofilm destabilization, like in…

Is there an ETA on global shipping?

We're working on this right now! If you send us an email at info[at]bristlehealth.com I'll send over more information shortly.

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Post by miketery »

thelittleone wrote: post #33
bmau5 wrote: post #29

The evolutionary adaptations oral bacteria have developed to coexist are fascinating. Another example is the known gum disease-causing species, P. gingivalis, can suppress our adaptive immunity [1]. This finding underscores the importance of taking preventative approaches to prevent attachment of biofilm producers (and why daily hygiene is so important), and finding more approaches to biofilm destabilization, like in…

A fascinating field of inquiry. Digestive systems and their inhabitants have evolved over millions of years. I recently shifted my mindset to feed not just for me, but also for the ~2kg of microbiota [1] inhabiting my digestive system. Has been great for my health. [1] https://www.racgp.org.au/afp/2017/april/the-gut-microbiome/

What sort of foods do you recommend? I've heard good things about yogurt, cottage cheese, and kimchi; but don't know for certain.

Re: Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’

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Post by Waterluvian »

sidlls wrote: post #40
Waterluvian wrote: post #36

Anecdotally, I’m having one hell of a time with my 3yo and 5yo’s teeth. No juice. No soda. No bad snacks. Lots of dentist recommended foods and snacks. Full brushing and flossing regimen. Fluoride. Dentist applied special fluoride treatments. Trust me when I say we’re doing everything right. And yet they’re 3 and 5 and have had so many cavities. I asked my dad about it and he said my brothers and I had, frankly, poor…

Could be something has changed, or else something else is at work. I had wretched teeth throughout my youth and through my late 20s. I have 8 or 9 crowns maybe 16 teeth, a few with fillings; some were pulled for orthodontic work. Then about 10 years ago I stopped regular dental hygiene practices: I brush my teeth once a day (most days) and rarely floss. Haven't had a "watch" in years since I dropped the practice of f…

I’ve flirted with conspiracy-like thoughts on the dental industry and how they might be “confidently wrong” about things the way the rest of the medical industry famously has been on numerous topics over the centuries.

I wondered (with absolutely no basis in fact) things like, “maybe the calcified tartar forms a barrier?”

Re: Microbes that cause cavities can form superorganisms able to ‘crawl’

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Post by bmau5 »

thelittleone wrote: post #33
bmau5 wrote: post #29

The evolutionary adaptations oral bacteria have developed to coexist are fascinating. Another example is the known gum disease-causing species, P. gingivalis, can suppress our adaptive immunity [1]. This finding underscores the importance of taking preventative approaches to prevent attachment of biofilm producers (and why daily hygiene is so important), and finding more approaches to biofilm destabilization, like in…

A fascinating field of inquiry. Digestive systems and their inhabitants have evolved over millions of years. I recently shifted my mindset to feed not just for me, but also for the ~2kg of microbiota [1] inhabiting my digestive system. Has been great for my health. [1] https://www.racgp.org.au/afp/2017/april/the-gut-microbiome/

So glad to hear it! These microbial communities play a critical role in our health, so we should feed them accordingly. We're trying to help educate on the same behavior for the oral microbiome. There's a lot of focus on what not to eat (sugar, etc.), but not on what we can eat to improve our oral health. We wrote an article on it here [1].

[1] https://www.bristlehealth.com/post/improve-your-oral-microbi...

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Post by CrHn3 »

ParksNet wrote: post #37
Eisenstein wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is arginine necessary to apply topically to the teeth, or can it just be ingested? If the latter, you can get l-arginine supplements easily. They are also supposed to help with certain, um, circulation issues. Also, xylitol is a great biofilm disrupter. Chewing xylitol gum has been shown to be beneficial in preventing carries.

Its difficult to find Xylitol gum that uses traditional tree sap and not plastic resin (and also doesn't contain added sugar). Any suggestions?

Xylichew uses birch and beech resin and has a gum base free of plastic.

To ensure I get an effective amount of xylitol, I use crystals in my tea and coffee. My child eats them with a spoon. Health Garden is one of the brands that uses birch xylitol.

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Post by rrdujay »

CrHn3 wrote: post #47
ParksNet wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its difficult to find Xylitol gum that uses traditional tree sap and not plastic resin (and also doesn't contain added sugar). Any suggestions?

Xylichew uses birch and beech resin and has a gum base free of plastic. To ensure I get an effective amount of xylitol, I use crystals in my tea and coffee. My child eats them with a spoon. Health Garden is one of the brands that uses birch xylitol.

Just mixing up Xylitol in water and swishing around is good too

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Post by NoPicklez »

Waterluvian wrote: post #45
sidlls wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be something has changed, or else something else is at work. I had wretched teeth throughout my youth and through my late 20s. I have 8 or 9 crowns maybe 16 teeth, a few with fillings; some were pulled for orthodontic work. Then about 10 years ago I stopped regular dental hygiene practices: I brush my teeth once a day (most days) and rarely floss. Haven't had a "watch" in years since I dropped the practice of f…

I’ve flirted with conspiracy-like thoughts on the dental industry and how they might be “confidently wrong” about things the way the rest of the medical industry famously has been on numerous topics over the centuries. I wondered (with absolutely no basis in fact) things like, “maybe the calcified tartar forms a barrier?”

I actually had a dentist tell me this recently after a clean. That the only "good" thing about calcified tartar is that is does form a barrier.

But that we should prevent it accumulating in the first place and causing tooth damage.

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Post by orangepurple »

Waterluvian wrote: post #45
sidlls wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be something has changed, or else something else is at work. I had wretched teeth throughout my youth and through my late 20s. I have 8 or 9 crowns maybe 16 teeth, a few with fillings; some were pulled for orthodontic work. Then about 10 years ago I stopped regular dental hygiene practices: I brush my teeth once a day (most days) and rarely floss. Haven't had a "watch" in years since I dropped the practice of f…

I’ve flirted with conspiracy-like thoughts on the dental industry and how they might be “confidently wrong” about things the way the rest of the medical industry famously has been on numerous topics over the centuries. I wondered (with absolutely no basis in fact) things like, “maybe the calcified tartar forms a barrier?”

Whatever the case is nano-hydroxyapatite is quietly becoming available on the US market and kids can safely swallow it so they don't develop fluorosis like I did which never goes away for the rest of your life
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