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Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by Bakary »

29athrowaway wrote: post #57

In all my years working in software, I have only had 2 colleagues with white hair. It is clear there are many older engineers out there that are having a hard time getting a job. Whatever is going on, it's clear there's a system in place to remove the older guys. Then, breaking news: HR fucking sucks everywhere. That's the whole idea of HR in the first place. It's a legal shield for the company, it has nothing to do…

The solution could be to increase stress so that employees get white hair at an earlier phase of their lives.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by betaby »

NaughtyShiba wrote: post #80
mkl95 wrote: post #53

I was a consultant for an American company that also hired dozens of cheap consultants from development countries. Mostly India but also neighbouring countries and some Eastern European countries. Indians were by far the hardest to work with. They ghosted women systematically which was a nightmare for our project manager. They also lied shamelessly about their qualifications which led to absurd situations. The proble…

Eastern Europe ain’t developing countries…

As the the opposite to? And by what metric? Maternal mortality? Human development index? Access to clean water?

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by 29athrowaway »

mkl95 wrote: post #53

I was a consultant for an American company that also hired dozens of cheap consultants from development countries. Mostly India but also neighbouring countries and some Eastern European countries. Indians were by far the hardest to work with. They ghosted women systematically which was a nightmare for our project manager. They also lied shamelessly about their qualifications which led to absurd situations. The proble…

My observation is that the Indians that make it to the US via companies like TCS, Infosys and others, are the product of a highly political environment where you are expected to worship your manager and tend to be political as fuck.

They are very different to Indians that have not worked in such environments, who tend to be much more trustworthy and ethical.

In America, a manager is another employee who can be wrong just as often as anyone else.

I am glad to see in recent years that the startup scene in India is empowering capable engineers to escape the fucked up reality that can be the corporate work culture over there.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by aaomidi »

booleandilemma wrote: post #62
anon23anon wrote: post #10

Wow - so Indian companies hires all Indians even in American offices. CEO gets caught on a hot mike saying they don't want to hire stupid Americans which forces said CEO to change hiring policy but they blunder it and tell HR not to hire Indian candidates which back fires.

Diversity is only for white people. Look at the diversity on the board of Mitsubishi: https://www.mitsubishicorp.com/jp/en/about/bmembers/

I mean I’ll take a stab at this:

https://www.bmwgroup.com/en/company/leadership-and-governanc...

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by ElCheapo »

k__ wrote: post #78
dr-detroit wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The state I live in is 85% white and the goal is to hire much less than 85% whites. So the goal is to create a diverse community that doesn't exist.

Diversity can foster innovation.

Didn't know skin pigment contributed to innovation.

"Diversity" is empty HR speak, please specify which kind of diversity fosters innovation.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by germandiago »

seper8 wrote: post #5
aliqot wrote: post #4

How does this differ from companies and elected officials openly saying right now that females and minorities are preferred for X position, like vice president of USA or CEO of Reddit?

It doesn't, but you can't discriminate against white men. /s

you can discrimnate against anyone and you do it every day.

When you choose your gf you discriminated another girl that liked you.

When you choose another coffee brand also.

When you hire someone also.

Ppl who pay the cost should be able to choose.

Any solution forcing the party paying to choose what you would like them to choose without you paying the cost is, IMHO , plain wrong.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by phpisthebest »

notart666 wrote: post #82
dr-detroit wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The state I live in is 85% white and the goal is to hire much less than 85% whites. So the goal is to create a diverse community that doesn't exist.

Well Dr.Detroit. Where I'm from in the Midwest. Black people live predominately in homelessness because the white majority just refuses to hire them for jobs. As for many of them as well, they are underemployed even when they seek employment opportunities.

I am in the midwest, live in a mid size city in the mid west. I live in a Middle Income Neighborhood in the midwest...

Demographics of this city I believe are 30% minority and 70% white. Of the 10 Homes owners closest to me (and they are all home owners no rentals) 4 of them are black.

My employer has a much larger than 30% black workforce.

Homelessness is not a large problem here, however it is primarily white men that I see homeless. probably on the order of 70% matching demographics

I am tired of the false narrative that the midwest is racist.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by philliphaydon »

notart666 wrote: post #73
mkl95 wrote: post #53

I was a consultant for an American company that also hired dozens of cheap consultants from development countries. Mostly India but also neighbouring countries and some Eastern European countries. Indians were by far the hardest to work with. They ghosted women systematically which was a nightmare for our project manager. They also lied shamelessly about their qualifications which led to absurd situations. The proble…

Many of them just can't speak English correctly. Only a small percentage of the individuals who speak English at a proficient level of those who do, they predominately come from very wealthy upper caste families and now you have a new problem. And well. When it comes to caste, many Indians simply believe it to not exist anymore in India because of how deeply engrained it is in their social classes they never notice i…

I don’t understand the English thing. I lived in Singapore for 10 years and have heard so many words pronounced wrong. To give an example one of my ex coworkers used to say the word swap as sw-app. Another one said return as ret-urn. I did ask them and they said they are taught phonics and so they just say the words how they are written.

English is such a turd language. We have so many rules and then all those rules get broken all the time.

(Despite the English thing which didn’t get in the way of working together, my single team are the best team I’ve ever had in my career and I’ll really miss them)

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by aliqot »

ElCheapo wrote: post #95
k__ wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Diversity can foster innovation.

Didn't know skin pigment contributed to innovation. "Diversity" is empty HR speak, please specify which kind of diversity fosters innovation.

> please specify which kind of diversity fosters innovation

To keep an open mind I did a thought experiment and found a few: entertainment, fusion food, music, those things I'd imagine benefit greatly from diversity.

Re: Infosys asked HR not to hire 'Indian-origin candidates', 'women with children'

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Post by mccorrinall »

NaughtyShiba wrote: post #80
mkl95 wrote: post #53

I was a consultant for an American company that also hired dozens of cheap consultants from development countries. Mostly India but also neighbouring countries and some Eastern European countries. Indians were by far the hardest to work with. They ghosted women systematically which was a nightmare for our project manager. They also lied shamelessly about their qualifications which led to absurd situations. The proble…

Eastern Europe ain’t developing countries…

Depends on who you ask. The following graphic is on the article about developing countries and includes emerging markets in the „lesser developed“ category: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IMF_advanced_economi...
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