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Animals evolved long before plants. What's crazy is that plants were arguably evolved by fungi using alga to farm sunlight
> Animals evolved long before plants No underwater: algae 3500MY vs sponges, worms, shells 800MY-485MY out of water: plants 470MY vs millipedes, tetrapod 420MY-400MY
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#72Sometimes I wonder if we're just giant machines built by microorganisms. It would certainly make an interesting story, along the idea of a robot discovering they were made by somebody else, which I believe has already been explored
Reminded me: > Animals are something invented by plants to move seeds around. An extremely yang solution to a peculiar problem which they faced. (Terence McKenna)
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...except we didn't evolve from plants. While animals and plants share mitochondria, they do not share plastids (chloroplast, chromoplast, etc.). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastid
"Invented by plants" does not necessitate "evolved from plants". Your TV doesn't contain mitochondria :)
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> Sometimes I wonder if we're just giant machines built by microorganisms I believe that we were well-organized colonies of bacteria was proven long time ago. We are literally a unified collective of cells.
Prokaryotes, not bacteria. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-domain_system
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An interesting fact that I learned from the book Metazoa is that biological diversity was greater in the seas than on land, until about 130 million years ago, and then the explosion of diversity on land, at that time and still now, was because of a feedback loop that developed between plants and insects, with the insects allowing greater specialization among the plants, and the greater diversity among plants allowing…
until trees with their wood laid waste to this balance? at least until fungi figured hoe to break lingin?
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"Invented by plants" does not necessitate "evolved from plants". Your TV doesn't contain mitochondria :)
Well i think invented is probably the wrong word moulded is probably better when you consider the fact that trees could be hundreds of years old before humanity proliferated and destroyed so many forests in last 1-200 years. It is not out of the question that animals could have evolved to serve trees as a 2-300 year old tree could see 100 generations of an animal
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Cancer loves sugar. They generally disable the mitochondria and burn glucose in a much less efficient anaerobic process. Areas with malnutrition and lower life expectancy would not grow them very well.
Is there data that supports this? (I don't even know where to look for a query of that sort)
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> Animals evolved long before plants No underwater: algae 3500MY vs sponges, worms, shells 800MY-485MY out of water: plants 470MY vs millipedes, tetrapod 420MY-400MY
quora says animals https://www.quora.com/Which-evolved-first-plants-or-animals
And even on land, he seems to be wrong (or at least not up to date): https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/february/plant-life..., https://www.science.org/content/article/land-plants-arose-ea...
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#80I think we need to credit the Swedish medical system here. They found that people who had taken oral Terbinafine (to treat toenail fungus) had a significantly lower mortality from prostate cancer. This has let to a bunch of studies in Sweden where terbinafine has been added to cancer treatment with fantastic results. This work adds a plausible mechanism for the results.