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Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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Animals evolved long before plants. What's crazy is that plants were arguably evolved by fungi using alga to farm sunlight

> Animals evolved long before plants No underwater: algae 3500MY vs sponges, worms, shells 800MY-485MY out of water: plants 470MY vs millipedes, tetrapod 420MY-400MY

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Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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Sometimes I wonder if we're just giant machines built by microorganisms. It would certainly make an interesting story, along the idea of a robot discovering they were made by somebody else, which I believe has already been explored

Reminded me: > Animals are something invented by plants to move seeds around. An extremely yang solution to a peculiar problem which they faced. (Terence McKenna)

Life is just is a way for water to transport itself.

Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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...except we didn't evolve from plants. While animals and plants share mitochondria, they do not share plastids (chloroplast, chromoplast, etc.). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastid

"Invented by plants" does not necessitate "evolved from plants". Your TV doesn't contain mitochondria :)

Well i think invented is probably the wrong word moulded is probably better when you consider the fact that trees could be hundreds of years old before humanity proliferated and destroyed so many forests in last 1-200 years. It is not out of the question that animals could have evolved to serve trees as a 2-300 year old tree could see 100 generations of an animal

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> Sometimes I wonder if we're just giant machines built by microorganisms I believe that we were well-organized colonies of bacteria was proven long time ago. We are literally a unified collective of cells.

Prokaryotes, not bacteria. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-domain_system

Wow that was awesome to read. Biology keeps blowing its old theories out of the water. All of the excitement about rapid genome sequencing is being borne out, even tho you don’t read about bioinformatics so much. So bacteria are an offshoot from our lineage. We really are learning a lot so quickly.

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An interesting fact that I learned from the book Metazoa is that biological diversity was greater in the seas than on land, until about 130 million years ago, and then the explosion of diversity on land, at that time and still now, was because of a feedback loop that developed between plants and insects, with the insects allowing greater specialization among the plants, and the greater diversity among plants allowing…

until trees with their wood laid waste to this balance? at least until fungi figured hoe to break lingin?

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Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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"Invented by plants" does not necessitate "evolved from plants". Your TV doesn't contain mitochondria :)

Well i think invented is probably the wrong word moulded is probably better when you consider the fact that trees could be hundreds of years old before humanity proliferated and destroyed so many forests in last 1-200 years. It is not out of the question that animals could have evolved to serve trees as a 2-300 year old tree could see 100 generations of an animal

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Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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Cancer loves sugar. They generally disable the mitochondria and burn glucose in a much less efficient anaerobic process. Areas with malnutrition and lower life expectancy would not grow them very well.

Is there data that supports this? (I don't even know where to look for a query of that sort)

The change in a cancer cell's glucose processing is known as the Warburg Effect.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_effect_(oncology)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2849637/

Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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AFAIK fungi are extremely hard to get rid of. This is not a great news.

Yep. 0. There aren't many antimycotics. 1. The extreme measures Mount Sinai needed to clean up after C. auris. (It has a 30% mortality rate.)

Many of the things that kill fungi also kill livers.

Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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> Animals evolved long before plants No underwater: algae 3500MY vs sponges, worms, shells 800MY-485MY out of water: plants 470MY vs millipedes, tetrapod 420MY-400MY

quora says animals https://www.quora.com/Which-evolved-first-plants-or-animals

Algae existed long before animals

And even on land, he seems to be wrong (or at least not up to date): https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2018/february/plant-life..., https://www.science.org/content/article/land-plants-arose-ea...

Re: Do fungi lurking inside cancers speed their growth?

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I think we need to credit the Swedish medical system here. They found that people who had taken oral Terbinafine (to treat toenail fungus) had a significantly lower mortality from prostate cancer. This has let to a bunch of studies in Sweden where terbinafine has been added to cancer treatment with fantastic results. This work adds a plausible mechanism for the results.

Very interesting. Are there any particular references you can recommend?
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